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Minidee
05-26-2011, 06:40 PM
I'm 5'1" female. I prefer to have my bike lowered so i may have both feet on the ground.

My friend said:

"I have a feeling that you might be able to use a 2011 CBR1000RR/600RR lowering link on your bike…drops it 1.5-2” Compare the pictures…Different shapes but holes look like they match up."

What do you guys think? Is it possible? Any other suggestions? I had someone tell me to either shave the seat or adjust the suspension.

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Baby CBR
05-26-2011, 06:52 PM
This is something I'd be curious about as well. Hopefully someone can chime in!

kvr929rr
05-26-2011, 07:45 PM
I don't think it will work because of the width of the stock link. The lowering links in the picture are just 1/4" Aluminum plate that go on either side of a different type of linkage. The stock linkage is much wider than even two of them together. The other part of the link is where you'd be able to lower it easier but I haven't found a link to match the width of the bearing that the link rods are welded to. Soon someone will manufacture one. Neither a 2006 CBR linkage nor a Ninja 250 linkage will work. Neither will the links off the CRF230 dirtbike, which is the same type.

delongj
05-26-2011, 09:28 PM
I actually have the same issue, I am 5'1 as well and would prefer to have feet flat on the ground. Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be a real solution to this at this point other than shaving down the seat, which I'm not sure about you but I am not planning on hacking anything off of a new bike. As with lowering the suspension, my husband put it as low as he could and it didn't really make much of a difference.

Macca
05-27-2011, 06:47 AM
There was a link in this site somewhere with a company already working on a lowering kit

try

Krooztune — CBR250 2011 LOWERED (http://www.krooztune.com/products/cbr250-lowered)

DoubleRGirl
05-28-2011, 03:29 PM
if you take the triangle bracket that attaches to the rear shock and rotate it, it should lower it slightly. however, i'm an inch shorter than you and i'm fine on my toes, i can only one foot my 600. you'll get used to the weight and balance and probably eventually be more comfortable stopping with one foot flat than two

Minidee
05-31-2011, 06:42 PM
Thanks Macca!! I contacted Krooztune. I'm waiting on my local suspension shop to do some research for me before lowering it.

Here's their pricing and response:

"This linkage will lower the rear of the bike 2inches. It is relativley easy to install but you will need bike stands / jacks etc to get rear wheel in air to change this. I would recommend you take this to a motorcycle dealer to have installed. I can supply with some instructions to help, but it basically bolts in as a replacement over the standard link arm.
We lowered the front forks just over 1 inch to balance the geometry out , then slid the forks further through the triple clamps (around 3/4 inch) to lower the front end to match the rear. We can supply these front fork lowering spacers also but are much harder to install , although a very easy job for someone capable with motorcycle suspension, I recommend you get it professionely installed."

Linkage AUS$220
Fork Destrokers $60

Jaja09
06-01-2011, 08:52 AM
Hello Minidee, I'm an inch shorter than you and also looking for ways to lower my bike, though I've been doing ok with one foot, would just be much better to be able to put both on the ground.

Are you getting the links? Share with us what you come up with :)
Thanks! :)

iLLiPiNo
06-01-2011, 09:49 AM
Do it! Do it! Do it!

DoubleRGirl
06-01-2011, 02:00 PM
if you don't have to do it, i say live with it. learn the balance points, get used to the weight. there aren't any smaller lighter bikes out there so if you can't handle this one, you won't be able to get anything else

iLLiPiNo
06-01-2011, 02:35 PM
if you don't have to do it, i say live with it. learn the balance points, get used to the weight. there aren't any smaller lighter bikes out there so if you can't handle this one, you won't be able to get anything else



I'm gonna have to disagree with that one! I've see short people on 600's and even 1000's! Eventually you get used to the speed and weight of the bike. It's just all about balance! You don't necessarily have to be both feet down and flat footed. But it does feel better! As long as you feel comfortable with one foot down and half on the seat, you should be fine! Don't EVER let anyone tell you what you can and can't do!

DoubleRGirl
06-01-2011, 02:42 PM
^true i started on a 600 that i can only one foot. lowering the bike now will be easier but i don't think it will do any of them any favors in the long run unless they always want to ride lowered bike with hard riding suspension and compromised handling. all i'm saying is if they can live with this bike at stock height, it will help them more when they are ready to move up

iLLiPiNo
06-01-2011, 03:06 PM
^Agreed! And sorry if it seemed like I was coming on too strong.

DoubleRGirl
06-01-2011, 11:53 PM
i'm only 5' so i def sympathize with you guys too, i've been there

mellow
06-02-2011, 02:22 AM
dont knock my shorties! ;) jk..im 5'3, luckly i can flat toe the bike with both feet down,with a girl on the back i could touch more ground!

iLLiPiNo
06-02-2011, 09:51 AM
Wow! I guess alot of us "shorties" are rockin the 250! I like it!

w0rM
06-02-2011, 09:56 AM
/cue Randy Newman :D

pvcbr250
06-13-2011, 11:20 PM
Hold up a second...this post shows that theres alot of women on bikes. Now where are you girls at lol. I cant find anyone around my area to ride with. **** Ive only seen 1 ninja 250 since ive owned this bike. There needs to be a 250 meeting around where Im at. Any 250's around the dallas fort worth area? Oh and how do lowering kits work? Is it like cars where you change the springs? Because then I can understand why I wouldnt wanna lower my bike and bounce allover the road.

live_to_ride
06-13-2011, 11:41 PM
Guess i'm the tall one...i'm 5'5". Can't flat foot either but the light weight makes it easyier to hande. I always one foot down, find it balances better as DouleRgirl says. This is one of the lightest bikes out there

girly
06-14-2011, 12:19 AM
Would definitely recommend you don't install a linkage. They screw up the geometry of the suspension and handling of the bike. No half-decent suspension specialist will tell you otherwise.

See my reply to your earlier thread. The best thing you can do before getting on the bike is stretch your hamstrings out. It makes the world of difference (and it's free!)

When I upgraded, I went to a Ducati Monster 696 because their frame/suspension design is different then the Japanese sportsbikes and they can be lowered without screwing everything up.

Honda-biker
06-14-2011, 05:00 PM
from the sounds of it just deal with the height issue now till someone creats a lowering spring or even shorter mount

pgkool
07-02-2011, 05:15 PM
Here is a post of somone on the .org forums doing it themselves. Little pricy...$170 USD Lowering link (http://www.cbr250.org/forums/showthread.php?546-Lowering-link)

DoubleRGirl
07-02-2011, 08:45 PM
this thread inspired me to do a write up about the subject:

Tips For “Lowering” Your Bike « View From 60 (http://viewfrom60.wordpress.com/2011/06/27/tips-for-lowering-your-bike/)

w0rM
07-02-2011, 11:52 PM
this thread inspired me to do a write up about the subject:

Tips For “Lowering” Your Bike « View From 60 (http://viewfrom60.wordpress.com/2011/06/27/tips-for-lowering-your-bike/)
I like your blog... I wish I had the drive to write more for mine.

DoubleRGirl
07-03-2011, 12:54 PM
^thanks, it's not easy to keep up with

w0rM
07-03-2011, 01:15 PM
Yeah... my dedication to mine comes and goes. haha

The video of you and your BF on that ride was awesome. What kind of camera did you do that with?

DoubleRGirl
07-03-2011, 05:03 PM
i believe it's a wide angle gopro? the wide angle makes it look like the two bikes are a lot farther away than they were. i have a buddy with a gopro hd and the quality is AMAZING

w0rM
07-03-2011, 07:32 PM
i believe it's a wide angle gopro? the wide angle makes it look like the two bikes are a lot farther away than they were. i have a buddy with a gopro hd and the quality is AMAZING
That's sweet... I'd really like to do some videos like those for my YouTube channel. I thought about using Velcro on my Flipcam but realized pretty quickly that wasn't a good idea. lol

DoubleRGirl
07-03-2011, 08:36 PM
haha good luck with that. there's some cheap little tony hawk skateboard camera that is pretty decent and you can strap it on to many things

kyle100
07-26-2011, 08:06 AM
Hi guys, I tried the krooztune linkage and works great. I had to get my stand cut and welded up though but it works for me! They sent instructiond which was good but i still got a mechanic to fit it as it was too much for me or my husband. Both tip toes now on the ground hehe

Luke
07-26-2011, 10:09 AM
One trick about shaving the foam on the seat (or cutting foam rubber of any kind for that matter)

Put it in the freezer for several hours. The foam will stiffen and if you use a serrated bread knife you can actually make pretty clean and neat cuts.

Linda
07-26-2011, 02:34 PM
I'm 5'4 and I also have the same issue. Prior to purchasing this bike, I had the salesperson wheel the bike to the boots section and tried on all the female boots they have. When nothing works, someone suggested to have my seat modified. The company did it kept my original OEM seat and custom made a different seat altogether. The costs was $50. In addition, the salesperson also lowered the OEM link down as much as possible. Being 5'4 with the modified seating, I'm still on my tippy toes.

One other option I was being suggested, but probably not a wise idea is to drop the front suspension. This, of course will change your riding experience.

Since this bike is so new, the only place that I was able to find a link to lower your bike is located in Australia and I believe it runs pretty expensive $170ish.

My other suggestion is for you to wear hooker boots!!! jk...!

mkey
07-31-2011, 12:47 AM
Hi All,
I ordered the kit from Australia and it arrived after a few days certified mail. I had it installed by the dealer service department (both the linkage and fork destrokers). It's at least 2" lower, or close to it. I'm 5'4" and was just on the balls of my feet on the stock bike. I can now get both feet flat on the ground. It's a world of difference for new rider confidence. I'm sure the ride is firmer but I honestly cannot tell a huge difference.

One other thing I would mention is the dealer also had to cut and weld the side stand to accommodate the lowering. Overall that would be my only complaint if anything, the side stand is as short as is reasonable but I find that on some surfaces I actually have to tip the bike slightly to the right to get the stand extended before leaning the bike over for dismount.

I'd highly recommend it if you are looking to get the bike lowered and haven't had success with the other methods mentioned in this thread.

pgkool
08-01-2011, 09:34 PM
dup!

pgkool
08-01-2011, 09:34 PM
Hi All,
I ordered the kit from Australia and it arrived after a few days certified mail. I had it installed by the dealer service department (both the linkage and fork destrokers). It's at least 2" lower, or close to it. I'm 5'4" and was just on the balls of my feet on the stock bike. I can now get both feet flat on the ground. It's a world of difference for new rider confidence. I'm sure the ride is firmer but I honestly cannot tell a huge difference.

One other thing I would mention is the dealer also had to cut and weld the side stand to accommodate the lowering. Overall that would be my only complaint if anything, the side stand is as short as is reasonable but I find that on some surfaces I actually have to tip the bike slightly to the right to get the stand extended before leaning the bike over for dismount.

I'd highly recommend it if you are looking to get the bike lowered and haven't had success with the other methods mentioned in this thread.

how much did your dealer charge you to install the link? pics?

Minidee
08-02-2011, 06:32 PM
how much did your dealer charge you to install the link? pics?

I had my links installed for $40 rear and $140 for the front. Dealers usually charge like $65/hr. I just got a good deal with a suspension specialist which only charged $40/hr. The front was more expensive since he had to shorten it and also added thicker fluid to the front forks since the front suspension was soft and when you brake hard you would feel like you're diving forward. Now my front is stiffer.

The krooztune links cost me, $280 + $20 shipping = $300AUD = $321.09USD. Links are very well made and sturdy! Expensive but so worth it.

Overall.. i'm loving it!! I feel way more confident riding as a beginner. Being 5'1" and lowering it 2 inches. I'm able to have both ball of my feet on the ground. I can efficiently park my bike and comfortably wait at a stoplight without the worry about my balance and dropping my bike.

I'll post pictures of before and after once I upload them.

somebody5788
08-02-2011, 06:38 PM
I had my links installed for $40 rear and $140 for the front. Dealers usually charge like $65/hr. I just got a good deal with a suspension specialist which only charged $40/hr. The front was more expensive since he had to shorten it and also added thicker fluid to the front forks since the front suspension was soft and when you brake hard you would feel like you're diving forward. Now my front is stiffer.

The krooztune links cost me, $280 + $20 shipping = $300AUD = $321.09USD. Links are very well made and sturdy! Expensive but so worth it.

Overall.. i'm loving it!! I feel way more confident riding as a beginner. Being 5'1" and lowering it 2 inches. I'm able to have both ball of my feet on the ground. I can efficiently park my bike and comfortably wait at a stoplight without the worry about my balance and dropping my bike.

I'll post pictures of before and after once I upload them.

Glad you can now enjoy your bike as much as we have been! Have fun!

MiLLeR
08-14-2011, 04:37 AM
Krooztune — Honda CBR250 2011 Lowering Kit (http://www.krooztune.com/products/cbr-250-2011-lowering-kit)

matt71579
09-05-2011, 03:21 AM
Krooztune — Honda CBR250 2011 Lowering Kit (http://www.krooztune.com/products/cbr-250-2011-lowering-kit)

This is what the kit will do please any questions about the bike lowering I will answer on the youtube video I have up

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh172/matt71579/LOWEREDPINKCBR250.jpg

Macca
09-05-2011, 06:40 AM
Just the better looks of it lowered are awesome.

matt71579
09-05-2011, 05:47 PM
I agree and she is able to get both feet on the floor here are some numbers
5'5" both feet flat on the ground
5'4" 3/4 feet on ground
5'3" balls of feet on the ground
5'2"-5'1" tip toe the bike

Obviously there will be differences from one person to the next but should be close

rorkstar
10-04-2011, 03:25 AM
I'm about 5', maybe 5'1 on a good day. I can tip toe it, but I have excellent balance and I haven't had any issues yet with height. Definitely have to one-foot it, but i prefer tip-toeing around, as long as it's a level surface that I'm familiar with. I don't take many risks, haha.

kyle100
11-23-2011, 06:09 PM
Hi Guys,

I have seen Krooztune now do a -30mm lowering kit for the CBee 250. If anyone out there needs it not as low as my bike. (mine is lowered 50mm with Krooztune kit). I think i will upgrade to 30mm kit once i am more confident with this setup. :):):):):)

Kylee

twistedsister
11-29-2011, 02:05 PM
I am also short and had my bike lowered. I have a friend who is a bike mechanic who took off the dog bone and we brought it to a welder to have it cut and shortened then placed it back on the bike. Gave me just enough to be able to touch the ground a lot better to back up, etc... and don't forget to shorten the kickstand too!

Honda
11-30-2011, 07:44 AM
I had my links installed for $40 rear and $140 for the front. Dealers usually charge like $65/hr. I just got a good deal with a suspension specialist which only charged $40/hr. The front was more expensive since he had to shorten it and also added thicker fluid to the front forks since the front suspension was soft and when you brake hard you would feel like you're diving forward. Now my front is stiffer.

The krooztune links cost me, $280 + $20 shipping = $300AUD = $321.09USD. Links are very well made and sturdy! Expensive but so worth it.

Overall.. i'm loving it!! I feel way more confident riding as a beginner. Being 5'1" and lowering it 2 inches. I'm able to have both ball of my feet on the ground. I can efficiently park my bike and comfortably wait at a stoplight without the worry about my balance and dropping my bike.

I'll post pictures of before and after once I upload them.

I ordered the Kroozetune from Australia-- just an update -- now they don't charge for the shipping. The cost is now $249.00 US dollars. This is very new for me-- it's still in the shop, getting the kickstand chopped. I don't quite understand your post concerning "he had to shorten the front suspension". So you put thicker fluid in the front suspension? Can you say anything more about that?

tiagomatic
11-30-2011, 12:29 PM
Hi guys,
I am new to the forum and wanted to share an alternative to the Kroozetune I just found on ebay: http://rover.ebay.com/ar/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?mpt=1695094941&adtype=1&size=1x1&type=3&campid=5336714570&toolid=10001 Soupys CBR250R Fully Adjustable Lowering Link Lowered Stock to -4 inches 11 12 | eBay (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?type=3&campid=5336714570&toolid=10001&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fitm%2FSoupys-CBR250R-Fully-Adjustable-Lowering-Link-Lowered-Stock-4-inches-11-12-%2F180752549494%3Fpt%3DMotorcycles_Parts_Accessori es%26vxp%3Dmtr%26hash%3Ditem2a15b10676)
it's called "Soupys Fully Adjustable Lowering Link". I looked up their feedback and reviews and everyone who ordered seem to be very happy with the fit and quality. The big advantage seems to be the fact it's fully adjustable so you can play with it.
I just ordered one and will post comments as soon as I get it in a few days.

You can also orger from their website, same price: http://www.soupysperformance.com/catalog/item/4408900/9064725.htm

kitcat
12-12-2011, 02:15 AM
Hi guys,
I am new to the forum and wanted to share an alternative to the Kroozetune I just found on ebay: http://rover.ebay.com/ar/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?mpt=1695094941&adtype=1&size=1x1&type=3&campid=5336714570&toolid=10001 Soupys CBR250R Fully Adjustable Lowering Link Lowered Stock to -4 inches 11 12 | eBay (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?type=3&campid=5336714570&toolid=10001&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fitm%2FSoupys-CBR250R-Fully-Adjustable-Lowering-Link-Lowered-Stock-4-inches-11-12-%2F180752549494%3Fpt%3DMotorcycles_Parts_Accessori es%26vxp%3Dmtr%26hash%3Ditem2a15b10676)
it's called "Soupys Fully Adjustable Lowering Link". I looked up their feedback and reviews and everyone who ordered seem to be very happy with the fit and quality. The big advantage seems to be the fact it's fully adjustable so you can play with it.
I just ordered one and will post comments as soon as I get it in a few days.

You can also orger from their website, same price: CBR250R Lowering Kit, CBR250R Lowering Link, CBR250R Lowering Links, CBR250R Adjustable Kickstand, CBR250R Lowering Sidestand, CBR250R Shorter Kickstand (http://www.soupysperformance.com/catalog/item/4408900/9064725.htm)

Did this alternative work out for you?

tiagomatic
12-13-2011, 11:52 AM
It worked perfectly, it's very easy to mount. It's a direct replacement, no changes needed. I got it all done in about 1/2 hour. Removed the exhaust, removed OEM link and installed new adjustable one. You will need someone to help you hold the bike while you do this. The bike looks great and has a much better riding position. Not to mention I can almost have my feet flat on the ground. In total I lowered it 1.5 inches in the back and 3/4 in the front. The advantage is you can set it back to the original height (or higher/lower) with the turn of a couple of hex nuts. You will not have to remove the links ever again. (see attached picture)
Keep in mind you will have to cut your kickstand by about 1/2 inch or so. I had the guy at the muffler shop by my house do this, he cut and welded back together in a perfect angle within an hour. Charged me 10 bucks!
I will try to post pictures soon.

P.S. - it's still on sale on their website for $116 (reg $149)
http://www.soupysperformance.com/cbr250r_products.html (http://www.soupysperformance.com/cbr250r_products.html)

JP_CBR
12-14-2011, 02:08 PM
I just can't see how that is strong enough to replace the dog bones.:confused:

tiagomatic
12-16-2011, 12:29 PM
Definitely very strong, it might be stronger than the actual dog bone. It doesn't look like it from the images, but that's a heavy and solid piece. Remember, most of the weight lies on the front and rear screws which remain unchanged!

I already took the bike out for a test ride of about 50 miles through twisty and rough roads. I am a heavy rider at 230 lbs, and after getting back home made a short inspection and everything seemed fine.

My wife is going to be the one riding the bike most times (I have a Hayabusa), if it handles me, it will definitely handle her with 120 lbs! I wouldn't trust any part that
I wouldn't feel confident would be up for the task.

Street Sniper
12-27-2011, 06:47 PM
**** it ... this is probably my last post anyway.:D

don't lower your bike !!!!! that's for ??????? not smart people ;)

why didn't the bike already come lower'd ? for a reason !!!

all you guys about riding safe and taking your motorcycle courses :D:D

the first thing is: you do not put 2 feet down ... that's for Xspurts !!!

dangle-ing your feet while moving is a big NO-NO :D:D:D

only the rear-brake foot is supposed to come down .... and that's only if you are at a dead , DEAD stop !...but as soon as you start moving ...both feet back up on the controls a.s.a.p. !!....why you ask ? ..just remember me when you break your foot or worst :eek:

ps- personally know a stunt driver who is very short on a much , much bigger motorcycle plus a few female rider who are also short and smart enough not to be a passanger on a motorcycle !!
you guys are obviously on the smart bracket , especially if this is your first bike
...but if you want to lower your bike and dangle your feet , more power to you.... just don't expect to keep up with other bikes in your class ... and the "losing a limb thing":(

Naked_Duc
12-27-2011, 07:06 PM
It worked perfectly, it's very easy to mount. It's a direct replacement, no changes needed. I got it all done in about 1/2 hour. Removed the exhaust, removed OEM link and installed new adjustable one. You will need someone to help you hold the bike while you do this. The bike looks great and has a much better riding position. Not to mention I can almost have my feet flat on the ground. In total I lowered it 1.5 inches in the back and 3/4 in the front. The advantage is you can set it back to the original height (or higher/lower) with the turn of a couple of hex nuts. You will not have to remove the links ever again. (see attached picture)
Keep in mind you will have to cut your kickstand by about 1/2 inch or so. I had the guy at the muffler shop by my house do this, he cut and welded back together in a perfect angle within an hour. Charged me 10 bucks!
I will try to post pictures soon.

P.S. - it's still on sale on their website for $116 (reg $149)
http://www.soupysperformance.com/cbr250r_products.html (http://www.soupysperformance.com/cbr250r_products.html)


Thanks for the review, tiagomatic. I will definitely look into it. This is a great alternative to the Krooztune kit. It's cheaper and offers adjustability. The CBR250 will be my main commuting bike while serve as my wife's ride on occassional rides with me on my other bike. Having the adjustability without taking it completely apart is a big plus.