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post #1 of 27 Old 03-03-2016, 12:56 PM Thread Starter
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Non-Ethanol Gasoline Availability

The discussion topic of non-ethanol gasoline recently came up on the CBR300 forum. It's probably been posted here in the past, but I thought it worthy of a new thread (which I've made as a sticky).

This is a website which lists over 10,000 gas stations in the U.S. and Canada selling non-ethanol, pure gasolines...

Ethanol-free gas stations in the U.S. and Canada



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Ethanol-free is all I use in my cycles and small engines.

For those that aren't familiar with the issues created by ethanol in gasoline, there's a ton of info out there.

Basically, ethanol is corrosive and contains/holds water and will attack seals and some gaskets in older (pre-ethanol) engines. Because it contains/holds water, it increases the chances of rust forming in a steel gas tank.

Blending ethanol into gasoline reduces its energy, so more is required to reach an optimum air'fuel ratio. That's why you get worse mileage with ethanol-blended gas. In an engine with a carb, you get a leaner mixture which will reduce power and can cause engine damage.

There's more to it, but that's the basics. Really nothing good about blending ethanol with gasoline. I suggest avoiding it if possible.
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Seems kinda off the wall to me. I'll try it. If it blows up my engine.... I'm comming for you MotoMike!

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Ethanol is a corporate welfare issue in the US. The corporate farm lobby pushes for ethanol fuel blend mandates and ethanol subsidies, which are currently supported by both parties. Originally many environmentalists supported ethanol as a renewable fuel. Now the environmental damage and waste of ethanol production is better understood and many environmentalists are backing away from it.

Only two candidates for President in 2016 went on record prior to the Iowa Caucuses as being opposed to the ethanol lobby. The one from KY dropped out and the other one from TX is still in the race.

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From a UK perspective these fuel companies only offer pure 100% Ethanol free Petrol.

BP Ultimate Super Unleaded Petrol.
Esso Super Unleaded Petrol.
Texaco Super Unleaded Petrol.
Total all their Petrol are ethanol free.
Murco Super Unleaded Petrol.

All these fuel are hoovering around the 97 RON which is excessive but that the only way here to ensure it free from the plague that is ethanol. I use BP Ultimate in my cars, motorcycles, garden equipment and generators.
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I've been using the cheapest E10 for 30,000 miles.


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I've been using the cheapest E10 for 30,000 miles.
I mean - it works, but it has disadvantages compared to gas without.

I run E10 in my cars, but they are F.I. and have plastic tanks. I've got a lot of older bikes that are not designed for ethanol, and don't like the idea of the moisture collection associated with ethanol in anything with a steel tank.
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I just feel that the whole ethanol hate thing is way over rated for any modern vehicle. Non issue. Anyone here ever used "dry gas" fuel treatment? Basically the same thing.


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I just feel that the whole ethanol hate thing is way over rated for any modern vehicle. Non issue. Anyone here ever used "dry gas" fuel treatment? Basically the same thing.
I guess my problem with it is the idea that it's in some way beneficial for the environment or consumer - it's not.

It decrease miles per gallon, increasing consumption, and causes other issues. It's not beneficial. It's political.
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I just feel that the whole ethanol hate thing is way over rated for any modern vehicle. Non issue. Anyone here ever used "dry gas" fuel treatment? Basically the same thing.
Energy content of E10 blend: 114,000 Btu/gal

Energy content of gasoline: 124,000 Btu/gal

That's 8% less energy from a gallon of E10 vs. non-ethanol gasoline.

That means 8% poorer fuel economy and 8% poorer range on a tank of fuel.
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