Bazzaz injector worth $300?

[DieselMaxPower]

Originally Posted by ecustu7

You didn't add anything to this discussion all you did was tell him to buy a faster bike. If you dont own a bazzaz or know anything about it, then I really dont see how your helping.

You know what? Fair enough.

[REDHAWK480]

And helpful discussions like this is why I will no longer be viewing this forum.A lot of A**holes make it downright unpleasant.Stay safe,I'm out.

[tlee2989]

a bazzazz, pc3, powercommander, of even a flashtune are all ways to squeeze the last little bit of uncorked power you have. the problem with these are 1. you wont see any gains with a stock pipe (i know the op stated he had an aftermarket full system) 2. you need to get it on a dyno to have it properly tuned (while its there you can play with all the aspects of the programming air/fuel ratio, timing retard/advance, temp at which the fan kicks on, or smooth out the throttle response)

but ultimately honda has done a great job at building these bikes so the $$$ vs the outcome isn't worth it, you can a. buy a bigger bike to better suit your needs, or you can try a gearing change -1+2 is a drop one tooth on the front and add two teeth to the back sproket you will notice a decent gain in torque however your fuel mileage and top speed will suffer

[miltonch76]

I have nearly the same interests as Cytochromec. I now I didn’t buy a supersports and I’d be happy with some 2 or three ponies added so I kindly ask you to keep comments like “buy a second hand SS instead” for your own. I don’t want the mileage, riding position, tires wear or insurance costs of a SS. I just want a little bit more power on my CBR.
Having said that, I ask for advice to the ones who actually have a Bazzaz, PIM-2 or DFC installed, especially those who have the yoshimura PIM-2 installed since it seems to be the more cost effective solution. These are my questions:
1 – Is it mandatory to have a slip on or full exhaust to see any noticeable difference?
2 - Is there a noticeable difference, performance-wise, between a slip on and a full system?
3 – I’ve seen some dyno charts on the net and I can see a significant increase in torque (almost 30%) between 3K and 5K. Can you feel it on your day to day rides? Have you tracked 0 – 60 mph after these mods? I guess it will make a difference at pick-up, isn’t it?
4- Is it tuning mandatory in order to see results? I know Bazzaz and PIM-2 come with preloaded maps on it. Can you tell the difference without tuning?
Thanks in advance for taking your time to answer.

[roadster]

Originally Posted by miltonch76

Having said that, I ask for advice to the ones who actually have a Bazzaz, PIM-2 or DFC installed, especially those who have the yoshimura PIM-2 installed since it seems to be the more cost effective solution.
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OK so I'll keep to the point.
I have a DFC and a complete LeoVince system with an end baffle which is modified to give the sound that I want ( louder than stock but capable of being trundled through towns and villages quietly).

The DFC does exactly what I wanted and expected. That is it gives an engine with balanced throttle response throughout the rev range. Flexible bottom end ( 4000 r.p.m.), rewarding and responsive mid-range, top end which can deliver a genuine 90 m.p.h. ( 100 indicated) in favourable conditions. At the same time as giving good fuel consumption figures.

The main way it does this is by slightly tweaking the output from the lambda sensor to influence the closed loop fuelling. It also has mapping adjustments for wide throttle openings/high rpm and 3 potentiometers which can be tweaked for on-the-road adjustments.

In my opinion dyno testing alone cannot get all of the above set up correctly so if you are not happy with spending many hours riding round to find quiet stretches of road and evaluating and tweaking the settings then it is probably not for you. Personally I love it and its something you can't do on a superbike because its impossible to spend a significant amount of time on full throttle!

Regards Roadster