Ok, ok, ok. I'll get one with ABS. Lol just wasn't sure if it was really needed but you guys came with a lot of great info. Thanks a lot. I'm 97% sure I'm going to get a cbr250r. Seems like its a great bike for everyday use. Had the 600s and they're nice, but more than anyone really needs for the street. So when riding season comes around I'll probably be getting the cbr250r. But maybe sooner cause Honda has great rates right now. So maybe I'll get one and put it in the garage till spring. ********************, that doesn't sound fair. Lol
Not wild about COMBINED abs. I have a standard non-abs bike and I like that if I want to apply rear braking, it only applies the rear brake.
Can you actually remember a time when you only applied the rear brake where it was detrimental to apply the front brake also? I can't think of a single instance.
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in typical surburban traffic type situations of slowing using engine braking
plus gentle rear braking abs [on my bike] doesnt activate..
at my first corner i do a two finger light but quick touch on the front
to activate the abs, makes a sort of click sound at the brake,
just to check its working, but when manoevering backwards
or braking softly with front brake, no click, front only..
this is just my impressions and not a thorough testing
but seems that you do still retain good control options
other than when you use fast stopping pressure,
when it fires off all brake pads...
what you get is similar to controlled release of pressure as wheel locks
and skid starts, ie, it senses the lockup and releases, momentarily,
then repeats that response whenever the wheel starts to lock up..
having said that, it is only on the level of microseconds
and while the brake is not, locking, braking continues
as usual for any good brake system functioning normally..
i recommend anyone thinking of abs but hesitant etc
to take a few abs bikes for test rides.. plenty have abs now..
for day to day riding i believe you would be hard pressed
to know you had abs or not, except for the activation click
mentioned, which isnt a problem, just a reminder..
I've been riding for about 10 years or so and have never owned a bike with ABS. Just wondering if ABS is really worth it or is it more for a beginner?
You have ridden for 10 yrs, so give it a try, you'll love the novelty.
Here is my take on it, (first bike with abs in 40+ bikes)-
The Good-
Its fun to push to crazy limits,
Works well,
An experienced rider will feel what its doing and be able to take advantage of it,
it's more sophisticated than the $500 price suggests,
Has a nice front caliper with a bigger pad area and better feel than the poverty pack version.
you recoup the price back in resale (and insurance with some companies) anyway.
The Bad-
The combined part works, but is as useless as tits on a bull if it makes riders too heavy on the rear brake.
Heavy,
cant fit a headlift stand. (but thats only for track riding mostly)
ABS is a double edged sword for new riders,
It may save them,
but they wont know why it saved them, (but not your issue)
And when they get on their Gixxer 1000 in 3 months time ('because the cbr cant go on the highway' lol )
they will bin their shyt in spectacular fashion .
Sadly for me its the the reason I have to sell my 'Lil black nugget,
(But I didnt know at the time that I'd end up not road riding on it eventually)
So the brakes in general are set up better like Aufitt said, so you get ABS brakes, bigger brakes on the front and the combined system for $500. I personally have never even noticed the combined system. It's not like i hit the rear brakes and go "well that felt weird on the front, like the nose dived down". I have braked hard and the front ABS is yet to come on i believe because you really have to try to get the front ABS on in the dry, but the rear has come on about 10 times quickly because it comes on really quickly.
It's also fun to ride in my driveway and onto my back grass are when it's been raining and the ground is really slippery and just jab on the brakes for shits and gigs and feel the system working although it feels very uncomfortable if you pull the levers as hard as you can where there is like no traction so i wouldn't recommend it. Also if you don't like the system, just pull the fuse out and do some skids and stoppies
Overall i like the feeling of being at ease and the confidence in my braking it provides as i know that the wheels won't lock up, however i don't go out of my way to slam the brakes on because i bought the ABS version, that's just stupid so i still brake normally but if i happen to overstep the mark it can assist me. But don't think because you have ABS you can just hit the levers as hard as you can and expect it to do the work for you, it's a bad habit to get into because as soon as you test ride your mates R6 without ABS...good luck
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Non abs makes you more careful I think, yes it's handy to have in heavy rain but who wants to ride in those conditions at ten tenths anyway.
For $500 get it or save the $$$ & get frame sliders or even better advanced driver Ed ???
You have ridden for 10 yrs, so give it a try, you'll love the novelty.
Here is my take on it, (first bike with abs in 40+ bikes)-
The Good-
Its fun to push to crazy limits,
Works well,
An experienced rider will feel what its doing and be able to take advantage of it,
it's more sophisticated than the $500 price suggests,
Has a nice front caliper with a bigger pad area and better feel than the poverty pack version.
you recoup the price back in resale (and insurance with some companies) anyway.
The Bad-
The combined part works, but is as useless as tits on a bull if it makes riders too heavy on the rear brake.
Heavy,
cant fit a headlift stand. (but thats only for track riding mostly)
ABS is a double edged sword for new riders,
It may save them,
but they wont know why it saved them, (but not your issue) And when they get on their Gixxer 1000 in 3 months time ('because the cbr cant go on the highway' lol )
they will bin their shyt in spectacular fashion.
Sadly for me its the the reason I have to sell my 'Lil black nugget,
(But I didnt know at the time that I'd end up not road riding on it eventually)
HAHAHAHA, thanks Aufitt!! I don't care who you are, that's funny right there!
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It will almost always provide a tad shorter stopping distance, especially in wet conditions.
Actually, no; in fact, it will sometimes result in a tad longer stopping distance. What it DOES do, is keep the tire from skidding out from under you because with ABS you can't lock the wheel.
I had ABS on two different BMWs, and once it saved me from going down, because I once was coming around a curve and discovered that the second part of the curve was covered in wet manure (a Wisconsin county road ;^). I braked, the ABS cycled several times, and I was able to make the turn without skidding out. <WHEW>
Otherwise, I always tried to ride in such a way that I wouldn't activate the ABS, and I never used it after that. None of my current motorcycles have it . . . but in the future, who knows?
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although it feels very uncomfortable if you pull the levers as hard as you can where there is like no traction so i wouldn't recommend it. Also if you don't like the system, just pull the fuse out and do some skids and stoppies 
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