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Old 12-09-2012, 12:57 AM   #11
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deliberately train your eyes/peripheral vision and brain
to notice behind you thru mirrors by only momentarily,
glancing toward and back from your mirrors..

after a while it will seem as if you arent really looking
or not really taking your attention from the road ahead..
because thats what will be happening,, you brain and
peripheral vision will learn to see, enough, rearward
while virtually continuing to see frontward..

just a hint..
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Old 12-09-2012, 01:00 AM   #12
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and I learned first hand that, it's true

Reckless driver runs motorcycle off the road - YouTube
You rode straight into that one, saw it coming 100metres away.

Please change your youtube heading to;
'Reckless rider almost wiped themself out'
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Old 12-09-2012, 01:03 AM   #13
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'Ride like you are Invisible' does not always apply,
there is many situations where you need to place yourself where you are seen
ie in front of the car, not slowly sneaking up in the blind spot like your video.
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Old 12-09-2012, 07:58 AM   #14
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It is not impossible to put both the high and low tone Fiamm horns on the bike. Having both makes a very noticeable difference. Well worth the extra trouble, AFAIAC.

On the original mount, slightly bent inward:


On the left side, where there is a lot of room on the frame:








This picture shows the proximity to the exhaust header. So far no damage.



The whole shootin' match here: http://www.pbase.com/tomfarr/fiamms_on_cbr250r

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Something to fix this winter.
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I was in the process of passing him but the traffic ahead of me in my lane started to slow down, so I had to slow down. It's not like I made the conscious decision to sit right next to that guy like that. I started out quite a ways behind him, the traffic sped up, so I sped up, but then the traffic slowed down and I just so happened that I got stuck next to the guy.

And I don't remember what was going through my head but I doubt I checked to see if there was traffic coming in the outside lane it was just either sit in the middle lane and let that guy hit me or move and hope for the best.
Any of us who ride on roads with 4+ lanes in traffic have been in this same situation. The difference is that most of us would probably not doubt if we had checked the other lane because we are constantly checking for our "out". For me, the out looks like (can't fully know without seeing what was in your mirrors) the left lane. In fact, I try to pass from one lane removed (the left most lane in this case) whenever traffic allows. I like having the buffer of the extra lane. People sure do some crazy ******************** out there, though. Glad you're not a stat.
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The car driver was clearly at fault but... there's a reason MSF classes tell you to never ride next to other cars, or even worse, in their blind spot
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Like I tried to explain in another post, I wasn't riding in anyone's blind spot. The traffic in my lane was moving considerably faster in my lane than his lane. (You can see I was actually passing him.)

He came over into my lane maybe, I don't know, a second after I pulled up next to him? I wasn't riding in his blind spot for a prolonged period of time. I was passing him, and he just decided he needed to get over a lane in the short period of time that I was in his blind spot.

P.S. Thanks to all the people telling me this is completely my fault and that I'm a ******************** rider. Even though I don't think this situation was avoidable, you're entitled to your opinions.

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Try not to be too defensive. I'm a new rider, but as soon as I watched your video I didn't know what was going to happen ahead of time, but I'm thinking as soon as the traffic backs up the white van is going to go for it and try to come in the left lane. This happens all the time whether you are on a bike or in a cage. In that driver's mind the lane is clear and they are going to save two seconds by making a quick lane change. The difference is that they will usually notice the car before they completely come over and correct their mistake.

With a motorcycle they might not notice their mistake until they take you out. They might not ever notice their mistake and put you into the guard rail and continue on their way.

Try not to take it personal and learn from your brush with fate.
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Every vehicle you pass can potentially do this to you, 99.99% of the time, it won't happen. I try and pass other vehicles as quickly as possible, and will favour either the outside or inside lane of a motorway, because the other vehicles are only on one side of you. It's very easy to have 20/20 vision in hindsight, but these real world occurrences, where traffic in different lanes slows down and speeds up, can catch out even the most observant of riders, every now and again.
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