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post #1 of 39 Old 02-07-2017, 07:24 PM Thread Starter
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Yet another post about friends hassling me to get a "big boy bike"

Hey guys, I've been riding for almost 10 years now and have mainly ridden small displacement bikes. There's a couple I'm friends with who ride a CBR1000rr and a ZX10r. For the most part, they're cool and we have a good time riding. However, I constantly get to hear "You need a bigger bike if you want to ride in our group" Well, I've ridden with their group which consists of pretty much all GSXR's and R6's. I'll tell you, it is no fun trying to keep up (and I refuse to ride like an idiot) They will be passing 1-2 cars at a time, going 90-120mph down 55mph country roads. They of course lose me when they start riding like that. Is this really what I'm missing out on...I think I'll pass...

Anyways, his wife owns the ZX10r which seems to be waaay too much bike for her. She's owned it for a few months now and broke her foot when it fell over on her because she can't support the bikes weight. Before that, she owned an R3 as a beginner bike but I already know her husband convinced her that it was just 'too slow'

They keep giving me 'reasons' to validate me 'needing' a bigger bike, like "That bike's dangerous for the type of riding you want to do" or "We just don't want to see you hurt, the suspension can't handle the turns on these roads"

Am I the only one that calls bs on this? I would like to eventually buy a larger displacement bike (something reasonable but not stupid) in the meantime, I have absolutely no issues riding with them and handling turns at reasonable speeds. I believe it is a very flickable bike and carves turns and I accept the fact that my CBR250 isn't going to be able to do 0-60 in 3 seconds. I guarantee I could stay on her rear wheel thru any turn. I've looked at bigger bikes, like the SV650 or FZ-07 but I really haven't found a bike that screams out to me.

This is so annoying, I'm almost to the point where I want to find new friends to ride with. When it is just us, his wife will be the leader of the pack and we do ride very sensibly. At this time, I really can't justify buying a larger bike...it would be 100% peer pressure.

My wife also owns a CBR250, but rides it much more seldom than I do. I think they have talked her into 'needing' a bigger bike...

That's my rant...sorry if this has been told 50 times already on here. I just refuse to accept the fact that I 'must' buy a big bike if I want to be accepted as a 'real' rider.

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I rode 100-250 cc bikes for 54 years before treating myself to a CB500XA for the touring comfort and ABS. I figured that if I upsized at age 72, it wasn't peer pressure.

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My question is "what defines a 'real rider'?"

I too have gone through what you're describing in your post. Drove me nuts for several years. Then I decided that my riding limitations and style did not match, in any way, the super sport riders approach to riding. My man has rode bikes for over 40 years, and every class of bike as well. His favourite is his current ride, a Honda cb1100. I ride a Honda cbr 500r. Both of us love our bikes and our riding style is the same. We enjoy the journey, not how fast we get there. I've come to the conclusion I prefer to ride either alone or with my man. It is far too stressful riding with others who are aggressive, pass on solid lines, exceed the speed limit, and act all bored and impatient because I desire to obey road rules and arrive at my destination alive.

It is good you approach riding with a mature and safe attitude. As well, it appears you respect other motorists. It is ashame that the peeps you ride with are robbing you of some of your joy. If I cld afford another bike, I'd purchase the R3. Sweet bike. Small displacement bikes are every bit a motorcycle than the larger ones. Different tastes. I won't encourage you to drop your riding posse but maybe ride with like minded riders?
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Thanks and good post. I really like the 500r but my friends kept telling me it's not an upgrade from my 250....really? It has twice the power!

It seems like every 'hobby' has snobs who insist that you can't have fun without having the best. I enjoy spirited riding but find mastering the fundamentals more enjoyable than seeing how far I can get the bike leaned over on a turn. I know myself and my bike well enough to know my capability. That to me is what riding is about!

Yes, the r3 is a sweet bike. They let me ride it one evening and wow, it's a different breed...much more power than my bike. I still like the styling of my cbr250 better though

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I learned the meaning of the phrase "Ride your own ride" the hard way.

It was just me and one other guy. We were both on our airhead BMWs, him on his R100 and me on my R65.

We were headed a few States away for a gathering, riding through some countryside consisting of forest and farms.
I was leading, and riding too fast for conditions. Yes, the weather was perfect, but I came upon a blind left curve at too high a rate of speed.
I didn't want to get too close to the center line because I couldn't see around the curve if there was any oncoming traffic.
The next thing I saw was the gravel on the shoulder.
DON'T LOOK AT THE GRAVEL!!!

My explanation was that I was pushing my personal limits, in order to make sure my friend was having a good time. He told me never to do that again!

I went down, and had a VERY sore shoulder. It turned out, when I saw a doctor the next week, I had broken the tip of my left collarbone.

We proceeded on our way, but it was not much fun.
I would bring my left arm back to my body for cruising, but when it came time for "driving", I had to pull my arm into place by creeping my hand forward along the fuel tank with my fingertips.

Ride your own ride.

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I'm glad you were okay, it easily could have been much worse.
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I just finished reading your entire initial post (sorry).

I am very worried for your "friend"s wifes' safety!
She should have stuck with the 300 until SHE was ready.

I honestly don't know why these testosterone-engorged males need the fastest bike on the road.

It must be me. 40+ years of riding, and the fastest bike I had was an air-cooled 750 triple. And the shaft drive robbed that much more HP before it got to the ground.

I would stick with riding with just your wife, if I were you. It does not sound like your "friend" has your best interests in mind.
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To Steelo. It looks like you need to spread yourself about a little more and hopefully find a group that exerts less performance pressure on you. Don't completely abandon the original group as you have said that some situations still work well.
I went through a similar situation with my mountain biking a few years ago. The group I'd been riding with for several years started caring less about the riding and more about the drinking. What started as a good workout followed by a couple of beers had turned into a gentle bimble to the pub where we'd be planted for most of the evening. Initially I started riding on my own and meeting them a bit later after I'd done my own thing but then took to riding with another group I vaguely knew and that has now become a permanent thing. I still see the original guys quite often as they're a great bunch to socialise with but I avoid the rides I know I'm not going to enjoy.
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Thanks for the reply, I hung out with a similar group while I served in the Air Force. They for the most part were cool guys, but on the weekends liked to drink, act stupid and inevitably get into fights. Eventually fate caught up with them and they got into big trouble.

This current group I ride with (at least the wife) rides fairly safe, it's just the attitude they have that I absolutely cannot stand. I also don't appreciate him passing me on the right at 114mph to show off for the camera. Like I mentioned, she usually leads our group of 3-4 and rides sane. He is usually in the back vlogging about his infinite knowledge of riding and sportbikes, even though he hasn't even been riding a year yet...LOL
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The showing off for the camera bit is worrying. I'd suggest you voice your concerns to the others and hopefully agree to point out to this guy that you're not comfortable that he's not only compromising his own safety but that of his friends as well. If you can all gang up on him he might just take note.
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