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Old 10-25-2012, 07:27 PM   #1
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Just wondering if there is a list out there of common errors and quick solutions for new riders.

What to do if you give too much throttle and you start to loose control? Downshift too soon or two gears instead of one?

Panic situations in general and how to quickly recover?

I'm sure a lot will be covered in my class but I enjoy hearing from forum members for real life situations.
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Leaves hurts.
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Through life you will be faced with difficult, and stressful decisions. Some simple, and some life or death. Practicing to keep a clear head and making good decisions is about the best advice I was ever given.

Too much throttle on a 250.... if it feels like you've done this just hang on for the ride, look through the corner and trust the bike is much more capable than you. As for down shifting, this was one thing I struggled with a bit. The rear tire locks up and skids a little. Just stay calm and pull the clutch in smoothly.

Panic situations! brake then swerve! Avoid them if possible by always being alert to other drivers. I personally find myself being a bit of a speed hog. Nothing crazy, but if I'm passing a bigger vehicle I wait until I know I won't be caught beside them and then proceed asap around them.

If you're a total newb then wait for the concept of countersteering. It's a mind ----
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That's a good one.

If you hit some wet leaves or anything for that matter that causes your rear tire to kick out and you go into a slide, how do you recover? Can you?
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Thanks David.

Been watching tons of videos on counter steering.

Definitely makes sense, feel comfortable with it.
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That's a good one.

If you hit some wet leaves or anything for that matter that causes your rear tire to kick out and you go into a slide, how do you recover? Can you?
A rear-wheel slide, with some luck, can be recovered from. Just ride it out, steering in the direction of the skid, like you would with a car, to keep as straight as you can -- you might make it, or you might wind up in a low-side crash. If you are really unlucky, the tire will regain traction while it's sliding sideways and it'll turn into a high-side crash. Bummer.

If the front wheel breaks looks, you're toast; a high-side is almost inevitable . . . .
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Just wondering if there is a list out there of common errors and quick solutions for new riders.

What to do if you give too much throttle and you start to loose control? Downshift too soon or two gears instead of one?

Panic situations in general and how to quickly recover?

I'm sure a lot will be covered in my class but I enjoy hearing from forum members for real life situations.
The worst thing that ever happened to me, almost resulting in a crash, was caused by panic when I went into a turn too hot, and my brain said "SLOW DOWN!" and I tried to do just that. I don't remember if I actually braked, or just dropped the throttle, but it meant that I went from being leaned over in a turn to being vertical and going straight, while the road seemed to go from side to side under me. I wound up stopped on the left shoulder, and if a car had been coming, I would almost certainly have gone head first into it.

What I learned from that: if I'm in a turn that feels too fast, I need to press on the inside bar a little harder, hold the throttle steady, and trust that the motorcycle will make it through the turn OK. And then brake a little harder before then next turn . . . .
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First of all, welcome to the forum mate...!!!

Now about your question, trust me no matter how many replies you read, and how many videos you watch, in panic situation you are going to do exactly what your inner instincts tells you to do...I mean, quick break or dodge around or if its too late, just go ahead and crash...

In my own experiences, many times I've noticed that I just keep the handlebars straight and break hard (front only as my cbr is with ABS) and get the bike to the speed slow enough to zigzag around the obstacle (bad road patches, dead kangaroos, and stuff). On turns, if I see I am too fast to take a turn and feel I might go lowside if I continue, I keep the bike straight up, look for traffic and then break and then manage turn. Yes, this all happens in fraction of second and I do end up on the oposite oncoming traffic lane or road shoulder, but recover quickly.

I'm not saying don't read what other poeple have done and their experiences or watch videos, actually that would be handy indeed, as they will be in your subconscious mind and you might follow the same to recover, but honestly, practice makes man perfect. Making a mistake and recovering from it would be the perfect lesson learnt I would say...

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To add to this conversation, is to NOT be in a hurry to your destinations! Plan out the ride!
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TARGET FIXATION- a remarkable condition that is subliminal, and hard to explain. But, the reality is, once you get "in trouble" and start focusing on where you DON'T want to go, that's the direction you'll head. So, as mentioned above, watch/look where you want to go, and trust the Bike will take you there.
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