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Old 11-07-2012, 10:28 PM   #11
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19 time Isle of Man TT winner John McGuiness riding an electric bike from Mugen:

http://youtu.be/4IxEnViCDyg
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Old 11-08-2012, 07:36 AM   #12
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The only toys that should contain battery's are remote control or vibrators lol
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Green transportation might be nice to have some new high tech batteries.
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Just don't get them wet...

Report: 16 Fisker Karmas Burn Following Hurricane Sandy - Top Speed

(with a lot of seawater, anyhow)
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Just what Fisker didn't need. More stories of fire. Their battery supplier, A123 Corp, already did a $60 million recall of the first batch of batteries they supplied which drove them out of business along with 125 million of our Obama money.
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electric is free for me,so an easy choice.
i have very high hopes with this new battery chemistry coming
out recently
i have alot of rides like my avatar that eat lifepo4 batteries up like
a fat kid eats cake.
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Just don't get them wet...

Report: 16 Fisker Karmas Burn Following Hurricane Sandy - Top Speed

(with a lot of seawater, anyhow)

There's a reason I didn't mention Fisker. Their first offering to the world is just an over priced eco/stylish hybrid luxery car with disappointing results.

The car is made with poor quality as you can see here:


This guy owns that car and I've seen it in person several times this year and it may be something to behold with the eyes, but when you get under its skin, its unimpressive. Fisker has some ground to gain before seen as a serious contributer.

That and its more gas than electric. 50 mile range on the battery for over 100,000 Dollars. Screw that.

The car is for the foolish richsters who want a "cool" (or hot in this case) car.
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My post was silghtly unfair - nobody expects their cars to be immersed in seawater. However, in Fire and Rescue, it's a real danger. If you run off the road in brackish or tidal water with one of these cars, there will be a real danger to anyone in the water - victims and rescuers alike. Not just the pure electrics, but the hybrids as well - 200-300 volts DC and saltwater are not compatible.

I don't know how many on here spend any time at the ocean, but there's a real danger of swimming near marinas - people are electrocuted every year from leakage of 110 volt AC that is connected to the boats in the harbor. Now double that voltage and put it 5 feet away from you. And make it DC.
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I like the idea of electric vehicles, but I think we often overlook some of the downsides:
- transmission of electricity from energy source to the battery always results in some efficiency loss, as does the battery losing power as it sits.
-Generating electricity often comes from a combustion process, so electric power is not necessarily renewable.
- electric vehicles are not "emissions free". The emissions just occur "upstream" at the power plant. (Although it is fair to say that power plants are more tightly regulated than all those individual combustion engines on the roads and in garages.)
-The batteries have relatively limited life, compared to current components on traditional cars and bikes, and are expensive to replace.
- Batteries often contain hazardous material that needs to be disposed in a safe and environmentally sound manner.

I LOVE the quiet of electric vehicles, although it does create some safety issues. But imagine how nice it would be if even half the road noise around us was eliminated!

And Sendler, you do rock, putting 15K miles/yr, especially in snowiest city in the country!
Also, with todays batteries the precious metals have to be mined from the earth, which is also a finite resource, and uses a lot of energy for mining,shipping, and processing while causing a negative harm on the environment. Not that Im against it, just wanted to clarify.
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My post was silghtly unfair - nobody expects their cars to be immersed in seawater. However, in Fire and Rescue, it's a real danger. If you run off the road in brackish or tidal water with one of these cars, there will be a real danger to anyone in the water - victims and rescuers alike. Not just the pure electrics, but the hybrids as well - 200-300 volts DC and saltwater are not compatible.

I don't know how many on here spend any time at the ocean, but there's a real danger of swimming near marinas - people are electrocuted every year from leakage of 110 volt AC that is connected to the boats in the harbor. Now double that voltage and put it 5 feet away from you. And make it DC.
Interesting, never thought about that.
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