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Old 12-09-2012, 10:50 PM   #31
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Poor 16 yr old kid
But the poor 16 year old kid will have a great bike.

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Old 12-09-2012, 10:59 PM   #32
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Yup. All the more sweeter if it's hard earned in both academics and riding skills.
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Old 12-09-2012, 11:17 PM   #33
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I don't even know if the educators are to blame. I know a good number of them who have genuine concerns and an idealistic curriculum, but they have to jump so many hurdles. I've always been fascinated by Heinlein's position that social workers and child psychologists are the bane of social development; they prefer to enact positive feedback systems of child coddling rather than good old-fashioned disciplinary methods used by, for example, east Asian cultures, where parents aren't afraid to give their kids a good kick in the ass when necessary.

I go back to the Philippines quite often, where old-fashioned methods are used on the children on every level society, not just the parents. The peripheral family members, nanny(s), the tricycle driver, the teachers, and the clergy all have an active hand in rearing every child. It's fascinating how more disciplined Filipino children are compared to their American counterparts; this includes their Filipino-American counterparts. They may not be as intellectually advanced, as culturally sophisticated or as technically versed, but they tend to have greater awareness of social order, proper decorum, and self control.
A+ on the sentence structure, spelling and grammar, except for the comma before the and in the last sentence. It seems that with the advent of spell check and texting shorthand the world has forgotten how to use the language. I find it saddening!

I appreciate the fact that his parents were trying to get him to work on his grades but I'm not sure bribery is really the way to accomplish this. When I got good grades I got a pat on the back and when I wanted my first vehicle my parents helped me out but I still had to come up with 75% of the cash. I appreciated my first beater (74 Toyota Celica) because I realized how much work it took to get it. I didn't get it for doing something I should have done in the first place! Man! how awesome would that have been... If you pass high school we'll buy you a car! If you don't crap your pants today we'll buy you a motorcycle! WTF!
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Every 16 year old should get a new 2013 600 sport bike as a reward for getting better grades... anything less should be considered poor parenting.
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I agree. When I was 12, I had a paper route. When I turned 14 I procured my first part time job and have been working since then. My family was poor so half my paycheck was contributed into the family coffers. If I wanted something new or fashionable I saved up. No vehicles were offered and certainly no bribes offered as well. No work?, I did without. I didn't feel deprived. Instead I learned how great it felt to earn something through my hard work, not my 'rents giving me a free pass.

My son's first car was bought by both him and me. 50/50 split and he was responsible for registration and insurance. As parents we want our children to develop into responsible hard working citizens. If they are to be successful on their own, a wise parent teaches them how to be successful while still living at home. Hopefully not thru bribery. Honest rewards yes; not freebies.
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chill dudes...why the hate?
spelling isn't wat i care abot when i come on here. why would you?
Because I don't want to have to decipher illiterate word vomit. I don't care if you can't spell or write, but I hate liars who can't spell or write and try to BS it away as casual dress.

I can't tell you how often I've heard something like this over the years.
"Oh, I didn't know this was an English paper, professor, I can write perfectly well when there's a good reason"

Well, we're all trying to read your gibberish. That's reason enough. Have enough respect for your audience to give it your best or expect them to hate you for your disrespect.
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I mowed a 6 acre field near my granparents neighbor's property(with a non-selfpropelled push mower) for my first car. A 1990 Ford Escort hatchback. Oxidized red paint, busted interior. Couldnt even get it over 70 m.p.h. going downhill. Was a beast on gas mileage though. Tool me a week to mow. Lol.
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As a tertiary level teacher, I don't understand this obsession with grades, or even education. If somebody is not academically inclined they should be encouraged to turn their skills elsewhere.

That being said, the "R's" (reading, writing and arithmetic) are important in most walks of modern life. It is difficult to get by without them at least at basic level, but I am aware that they are a struggle for some. My brother-in-law is dyslexic, but that didn't stop him from becoming a world record holding sheep shearer. His 'rithmatic is pretty good. My nephews have also struggled, but have been encouraged to do well in areas that they do excel, not by promise of reward, but by sense of achievement.
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You need a tutor quick brah. lol I suggest you forget about a motorcycle until you learn how to communicate effectively.
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All I can say is WOW.
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