...I think the whole thing went off track towards it being somewhat about him being spoiled and others being less fortunate. That's why I put that point forward...
I think perhaps you, like his father, either missed reading the young lads 2nd and 3rd posts, or are just choosing to ignore the garbage he put forth in those posts. I make no apologies for any of my replies to his disrespectful bull sh!t.
I think perhaps you, like his father, either missed reading the young lads 2nd and 3rd posts, or are just choosing to ignore the garbage he put forth in those posts. I make no apologies for any of my replies to his disrespectful bull sh!t.
Yeah, I make no value judgement about parents bribing their kids with toys to return good grades.
I would make the efficacy judgement that it generally doesn't work and usually causes compounding of disappointment.
What I couldn't help notice was the nasty attitude the instant this kid was confronted with the obvious irony of bragging about how he was about to be rewarded for intellectual performance while demonstrating an otherwise charming patois de retard. Good job, pops.
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I think perhaps you, like his father, either missed reading the young lads 2nd and 3rd posts, or are just choosing to ignore the garbage he put forth in those posts. I make no apologies for any of my replies to his disrespectful bull sh!t.
I didn't miss anything.
He's a child, excited about the prospect of getting the bike he wants.
I appreciate the fact that he was somewhat disrespectful in his responses and that can stir up some tension.
But normally this kind of tension, normally gets stirred up between children...not a CHILD & ADULTS.
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I am CBR250kid's father. I just found this post on his laptop and I am rather taken back by the relative animosity that this dialogue has taken. So I apologize for any bad feelings that he has or had caused. I will be getting his account closed so that there will be no further disruptions to this group.
For some of you here who have posted negatively about him, allow me to come to his defense.
1) He goes to a private school. I pay for his entire education.
2) I reward him and I give him incentives to achieve high grades because I clearly benefit from this. If and when he gets admitted to the university of my choice, he will have saved me ~$80k over four years. This potential savings is substantial.
3) It is true that he currently has "C" grades in some of his courses. However, these classes that is giving him trouble are advanced placement collegiate courses. He is taking them for college credits. Thus, by doing well and completing them while in high school, he will be exempt from having to take them in college.Thus, I will not need to pay for those courses and he will graduate sooner than later.
Since he is my son, and I am paying for his education, I will reward him in any way I feel is necessary to get my son admitted. If and whenever some of you here with objection and you feel obligated to pay for his education, then by all means, you can voice whatever opinion or opinions you have about me in this regard. Fair enough?
4) Like all of you here, I too am an avid motorcyclist. Likewise, I also had to struggle in my teens to fund the purchase of a motorcycle. And I too could pass onto my son the virtues of hard work and savings by not funding his motorcycle interests. However, it is my decision to restrict him from getting a job because I do not want him to work, but rather spend his time maintaining a high GPA. Nevertheless, he DOES work, but not for money. He volunteers at a hospice twice a month. For some who don't know what a hospice is, it is a place where people spend their last six months of life before death. He cleans very ill patients' rooms and shampoos their hair.
5) Regarding the claim that I don't know what I'm doing by letting my son on a motorcycle, allow me to provide this for consideration. Statistically the cause of death with teenagers in vehicle accidents is among the highest. That, in and of itself, concerned me so much that I had to take action. I felt that the more time I provide my son with operating and controlling a motor vehicle, the better his chances would be at avoiding an accident when the time comes for him to drive a car. He would have, or it is with hope that, the skills required to operate a motorcycle under harsh offroad conditions will propogate over and give him motor and visual skills not gained from a typical driver's license course. This is my motivation for getting him on motorcycles at an early age. Now that he is 16 and has a motorcycle license, I am looking forward to sharing future riding trips and experiences with my son riding next to me. It is hope that some of you will have similarly grand experiences as well. Yes, of course I am keenly aware of how dangerous it is to be on a motorcycle on the street. We all are. But is this fear supposed to stop all parents who ride from letting their son enjoy that which we love? Some of you seem to think so, and that is unfortunate.
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He's a child, excited about the prospect of getting the bike he wants.
I appreciate the fact that he was somewhat disrespectful in his responses and that can stir up some tension.
But normally this kind of tension, normally gets stirred up between children...not a CHILD & ADULTS.
Well Dr. Spock, perhaps you and I can agree to disagree with regards to what an appropriate response is in dealing with disrespectful children. While you obviously subscribe to the "coddling" and "reward" methodology of child rearing, others here, including myself, may have a different view. And I take exception to your condescending attitude towards myself and others, who decided to call this kid out for his blatant disrespect (notice I didn't use the term "somewhat").
It's fairly obvious his parents are not of the 'teach your kid to respect others, especially your elders' school of thought, which is unfortunate... the School of Hard Knocks, and the University of Hard Mother F**king Facts of Life are always there, ready to teach these kids who's parents failed in giving them the basic skills of getting along in the world.
If you think that we were rough on him here, he has got one rude awakening when he leaves the nest and finds his smart ass out in the real world.
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Well Dr. Spock, perhaps you and I can agree to disagree with regards to what an appropriate response is in dealing with disrespectful children. While you obviously subscribe to the "coddling" and "reward" methodology of child rearing, others here, including myself, may have a different view. And I take exception to your condescending attitude towards myself and others, who decided to call this kid out for his blatant disrespect (notice I didn't use the term "somewhat").
It's fairly obvious his parents are not of the 'teach your kid to respect others, especially your elders' school of thought, which is unfortunate... the School of Hard Knocks, and the University of Hard Mother F**king Facts of Life are always there, ready to teach these kids who's parents failed in giving them the basic skills of getting along in the world.
If you think that we were rough on him here, he has got one rude awakening when he leaves the nest and finds his smart ass out in the real world.
Dr Spock?
There's nothing condescending about what I'm saying to anybody.
The thing about the thread is that the kid started by being excited about something. I think the whole 'credibility' thing was ok and good advice.
I do, however believe that the mocking of a child, instead of a little constructive feedback is uncalled for. Maybe if somebody would have just said 'Hey, make sure you're typing properly and not using text slang (or whatever it is) so that people can understand you and give you the correct amount of credibility for your questions', or something like that...the kid may have said 'Thank you, I'll keep that in mind'.
But now we'll never know.
Like I said, I hope he passes with flying colours and get his bike. I certainly wish I would have been so fortunate.
...and kid, if you do even happen to read this...be grateful, you're luckier than most...and even though some of the feedback came across as negative mocking, take the positives from it and sort your grammar out in everyday use.
...and motomike, I appreciate your opinion and your own ability to disagree. FYI, my initial response to your bad grammatical mishap was only in jest...hence the .
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