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Bent 10-06-2013 05:46 PM

Hepco & Becker C-Bow Luggage Set Plus Rack Install
 
I finally purchased a set of Hepco & Becker (same as Krauser) C-Bow set of soft luggage and their rear rack. I looked hard at the Givi hard luggage out of Thailand and hope I do not regret going that way. I ordered it on a Monday and it arrived on Friday. It was a steep $604 for the three items. The C-Bow, the cases and the rear rack. I installed them without much trouble and if I can then anyone can do this.

Here is one photo.
http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/...ps7c347813.jpg

Follow the link to all 28 pictures I took. The top bag in the pictures is another brand that I have been using for more than a year now.
Hepco And Becker Bags And Rack Photos by Benb5 | Photobucket

Ibex250R 10-06-2013 05:58 PM

Nice set up, thanks for posting.

Jme250RA 10-06-2013 07:27 PM

Very nice. Where did you get them from?

Bent 10-06-2013 07:48 PM

Purchased here.

CBR 250

Stichill 10-06-2013 08:38 PM

Wow, looks like it is well worth the investment.

Is there a piece of luggage designed to specifically fit the rear center rack behind the pillion?

Bent 10-06-2013 09:21 PM

First off a sticker on the rack is says the weight limit is 5 kg (just 11lbs).

The instructions say you have to install an universal alu rack (for top cases) instead of the alu palette that came with the rack.

The instructions say if this rear rack is ordered together with
a top case, you get a alu rack instead of
the alu palette.

This is shown here:
http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/...ps10a73c2b.jpg

So I would have to purchase a different top plate to mount one of their top boxes. Some are found here:
Hard Bags

huddleston 10-06-2013 11:17 PM

Looks great!


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Egnki 10-07-2013 05:56 AM

I am guessing for the side saddle bag you only need c-bow and the bag?

Bent 10-07-2013 10:49 AM

I did not need to purchase the rear rack. I was afraid that if I purchased another brand of rear rack that the installation might interfere with C-Bow setup. I did not do any research to see if that was the case.

As it is the rear rack is to small to hold much of anything. I do have a very small igloo cooler that fits fine. When and if I needed to utilize it in any meaningful way, I would have to get the optional wider palette or use some sort of drybag that would extend out over it instead of using the tail bag I have now.

Bent 10-14-2013 10:14 PM

Brought two 12 packs of drinks home tonight. One in each bag. I was a little surprised they would fit. You do have to unzip the expansion section to get it in, but then you can zip it back up.

http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/...pse8859d9c.jpg

jerameyms 10-20-2013 02:10 AM

I have the same set up, however I bought a 40 liter top case from H&B also. I can tell you that rear rack is very sturdy, I have had well over the 11 pound limit in my top case with no problems.

Bent 10-22-2013 01:41 AM

jerameyms,

I would like to see some pictures of your H&B top case on your bike. I have not ruled out getting one myself. How easy it is to take on and off? Does it lock in place? Which one did you buy?

Thanks

Carter 02-07-2014 08:22 AM

Hi guys!
I'm thinking about installing those C-Bow soft bags. Do you think a standard laptop would fit in? I'ts the main reason to buy them, and they are pretty expensive to buy and just try....

Bent 02-08-2014 01:27 AM

I know my 15 inch is out of the question. My son has a 14 inch but it will be a few days before he gets home, but I don't think it will fit either. The bag is only 10 tall but a laptop it can be made to lean some.

Bent 02-10-2014 01:23 AM

I was barely able to put a 14 inch laptop into the bag. However, I would never want to do it. So don't even think about buying it for that purpose. A 12 or 13 inch might be OK.

Carter 02-10-2014 06:33 AM

OMG, that's bad news! i dont really know if my laptop is 13 or 14 inch, should find out....

Thanks a lot!!!!

CBR250R 02-10-2014 10:19 AM

I have the Hepco & Becker rear rack too - for my CBR125R (150R). I have the universal Givi Monokey E250 adapter plate for it. It allows me to use Givi Monokey top cases. I have the largest case Givi makes on the back - the E55 Maxia.

It works incredible well.

I took it on a tour here:

You Can't Tour On That. A 4000KM Ontario Trip On A 2011 CBR150R - ADVrider

I'd love to get the C-bow carriers. Unfortunately, they aren't compatible with the 2011 CBR125R (150R) generation. The passenger peg bracket is welded to the frame of the 125R, whereas it's bolted to the frame on the CBR250R (and the bolts are used in fitting them to the CBR250R). With that said - I plan to find a way to attach it anyway - so I'm going to purchase the C-Bow for the CBR250R and then the attachment accessories so I can attach my Ortlieb waterproof saddlesbags (seen below) to the C-Bow carriers.

Bent - is there a weight limit specified for the C-Bow carriers? I haven't been able to find this information online.

Mike

http://i44.tinypic.com/dqhix3.jpg

Bent 02-10-2014 03:01 PM

The attached literature says 5 kg per bag.

http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/...ps34f12dbc.jpg

CBR250R 02-10-2014 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bent (Post 316073)
The attached literature says 5 kg per bag.

Thanks. The connecting strap should serve to reduce the load on the C-Bows considerably too. The C-Bows look like a fantastic setup for touring.

Mike

zontar 02-10-2014 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bent (Post 314825)
I know my 15 inch is out of the question. My son has a 14 inch but it will be a few days before he gets home, but I don't think it will fit either. The bag is only 10 tall but a laptop it can be made to lean some.

you really shouldn't compare yourself to your son. anyone knows a 12 inch will barely fit the way it is....

Carter 02-11-2014 09:16 AM

Hi guys, finally I've found my laptop measures:
Width: 13.1"/335mm
Depth: 9.37"/238mm

Do you think it would fit, as far as saddlebags are not square?

CBR250R 02-11-2014 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carter (Post 316346)
Hi guys, finally I've found my laptop measures:
Width: 13.1"/335mm
Depth: 9.37"/238mm

Do you think it would fit, as far as saddlebags are not square?

Carter - I believe one alternative is to buy the C-Bow accessory connectors and screw them into any motorcycle saddlebag of your choosing, and then you can snap them into the C-Bow holders on the bike.

HEPCO BECKER C-Bow adapter for side bags | Polo-Motorrad

Mike

Bent 02-12-2014 01:43 AM

My sons 14 inch laptop is 9.6 inches by 13.5 inches and it barely fits with the bag expanded and the laptop leaning to get it in. Your laptop is not that much smaller and I would still say don't buy these bags and expect to be happy carrying your laptop.

I like the idea of using your own case with the C-Bow accessory connectors. Here is are picture I found where it had been done.

http://www.diavelforum.de/attachment...4&d=1361114758

http://www.diavelforum.de/attachment...6&d=1361114758

Carter 02-12-2014 03:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CBR250R (Post 316457)
Carter - I believe one alternative is to buy the C-Bow accessory connectors and screw them into any motorcycle saddlebag of your choosing, and then you can snap them into the C-Bow holders on the bike.

HEPCO BECKER C-Bow adapter for side bags | Polo-Motorrad

Mike


Cool!!! Didn't know about those "adaptors"!! I really like 'em! Maybe I would try them with some hard cases, nice!

Thanks a lot Mike!!

djvirus 02-12-2014 10:05 AM

what's the total capacity of this? I see that these bag require that construction to hold it on?

Although i'm not a fan of GIVI, i normally use these

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...0/839/sz8i.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640x480q90/36/gjz0.jpg

Carter 02-13-2014 06:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carter (Post 316858)
Cool!!! Didn't know about those "adaptors"!! I really like 'em! Maybe I would try them with some hard cases, nice!

Thanks a lot Mike!!


Hold on Mike! Are you sure that is sold is the saddlebag part to be screwed? Looks like this is the bow part, to be fitted into universal racks or something like this...

CBR250R 02-13-2014 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carter (Post 317409)
Hold on Mike! Are you sure that is sold is the saddlebag part to be screwed? Looks like this is the bow part, to be fitted into universal racks or something like this...

I looked again. It seems to be what I described. Here is what the link says:

H&B C-Bow-Adapter

Adapter enabling the use of Hepco & Becker saddelbags without the C-Bow to the C-Bow holder.

I found a fellow on the following site who indicated that he has used the adapter for this purpose.

C-Bow Carrier + C-Bow Adapter Hepco & Becker

"Today I purchased the C-bow Carrier and C-Bow adapter for my guzzi 1200 sport. This is a system of fixing of soft panniers revolutionary and aesthetically effective. The carrier should be fitted with Hepco & Becker bags but there is an adapter for each type of soft bags, to be installed with screws to the side bags."

Carrier

http://i54.tinypic.com/2llm04n.jpg

Adapter

http://i51.tinypic.com/sxjifp.jpg

Mike

Carter 02-14-2014 07:17 AM

You're right Mike! Yesterday I spent some time with Polo-Motorrad contact person and found out what they sell is adaptor por any saddlebag. I wasn't sure as far as pics are not very descriptive...

Carter 03-03-2014 05:59 AM

Ok guys! Just ordered C-Bow carrier and adaptors, and some small panniers. Hope everything will work together with some home improvement... hahaha!

Bent 03-03-2014 12:41 PM

Please post pictures of your new setup when you are done.

Thanks,

Bent

Carter 03-04-2014 04:45 AM

Sure! Seems it will take nearly a month to arrive... :S

Stig's Two-Wheeled Cousin 03-04-2014 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djvirus (Post 316954)
what's the total capacity of this? I see that these bag require that construction to hold it on?

Although i'm not a fan of GIVI, i normally use these

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...0/839/sz8i.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640x480q90/36/gjz0.jpg

What bags do you have on those bikes?

wetrider 03-06-2014 12:56 AM

I also would like to know what bags are these?

Carter 03-18-2014 04:12 AM

Ok guys! Finally H&B holders and brackets arrived! I decided to install some hard panniers instead of softbags. Bought some Givi E22N, which are quite small but big enough for me. They also got the Monokey system, so if I ever change my bike I can still use them.
These are the cases:

http://i1140.photobucket.com/albums/...317_210619.jpg


Back of pannier is almost flat, so H&B holders can be easily bolted:

http://i1140.photobucket.com/albums/...317_210631.jpg



H&B holders are sold per units, so I had to buy two. Sad news because each one comes with its own key, it would be nice to have only one key for everything. Anyway, that's what is included when you buy those Hepco & Becker C-Bow Holders:

http://i1140.photobucket.com/albums/...317_210153.jpg

I didn't shot photos to bike brackets, but they are just standard Hepco & Becker C-Bows fot CBR250R, no changes needed.

Now, start home improvement. Easy and fast, just bolt H&B holders into hard panniers. Using the holder as a pattern, drill some holes into pannier:
http://i1140.photobucket.com/albums/...317_211044.jpg


Then just bolt holder:
http://i1140.photobucket.com/albums/...317_211652.jpg


This is how the inside looks like:

http://i1140.photobucket.com/albums/...317_211707.jpg


And that's all! Just fit them on the bike! I'm sorry I don't have detailed photos of panniers attached, there's not much light at home parking:

http://i1140.photobucket.com/albums/...317_213707.jpg


I came to work this morning with them. Near 40km, including highway -120/130kmh- with no problem, no vibrations, just fine. The only thing I don't like is panniers are placer a bit higher than expected, and doesn't look as good as I wanted. But anyway looks really "stock", very clean and ssmart. Really happy with this!!

Carter 03-19-2014 07:53 AM

Hi guys,

couple more pics...

this is how fittings look on bike:

http://i1140.photobucket.com/albums/...319_082554.jpg


And this is bike with panniers attached:

http://i1140.photobucket.com/albums/...614-picsay.jpg



Hope you like it as much as I do!

don'tpanic 03-19-2014 08:42 AM

I agree, they would look better mounted lower, but at least you are getting the right hand bag further from the exhaust.

I like my E21s fine, but I would have bought those E22Ns in a heartbeat, had they been available last summer. A nice looking shape for our bikes, and additional litre of space in each one!

http://www.pbase.com/tomfarr/image/1...6/original.jpg

Stichill 09-13-2015 07:01 PM


lightfox 10-23-2015 02:16 AM

Looks great. Just curious is there a way to lock up the bags? Would like that option so I can leave stuff on the bike and avoid theft.

Stichill 10-23-2015 11:53 AM

The bags are locked to the frames. To lock the main compartment, you could use a small padlock through both zippers. Personally I think locking soft bags is like locking a convertible- very easy to break in, destroying the bags and losing the items. I'd rather just take valuables with me, or hide them in a hidden layer on the bottom. Also, the visible presence of zipper locks just invites curiosity about what's inside.

Stichill 10-26-2016 07:43 PM

Hepco & Becker have come out with a new hard luggage option for the C-Bow pannier mounting system called Orbit.

http://i.imgur.com/D92mW0J.jpg


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