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post #41 of 54 Old 08-11-2015, 10:11 PM
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I'd like to see Ari repeat the "California style" small bike tire test "Atlanta style" on the track and conditions 0:50...1:12 in this 2015 Motoamerica mid-season highlight reel.
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I have raced on dr2's in blinding rain where ther race was declared WET.

Our laptimes were only down because of visibility,

Who thinks dr2;s don't grip in the wet obviously have never tried them, THATS what they are made for. think im lying read the product description.




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I'd still like to see the same set of contenders rain-tested with a similar head-to-head methodology.
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I bought some Michelin Pilots,
They even look as ugly as the Shinkos on a 250 Hyosung




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200km of wet city cold winter riding, I wrote this 'Review';
TYRES For sale, New Michelin Pilot Street 110/70-17 & 140/70-17 removed from brand new bike, suit Ninja/cbr/VTR/ 250-300cc , $100 each

Felt guilty advertising them, but the rider they went to had six yr old bald perished, flat spotted tyres on her shiny Ninja.
So I guess marginally better, but only if a cop picked her up for a roadworthy check.

THESE are the exact seccondhand DR2's from 2013 I put on to replace them, found under a workbench hosting spiders for 2 yrs,
old out of date, blue from heatcycling, but wet weather proven set-


Used them running in new bike, June 27th track day , and probably again on Sept 20 for the R3's second day.




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Hey guys...sorry been away for a while. Was extremely busy and fed up with work.
Anyway...back to the topic, I haven't changed my tires yet, simply no time at all. I saw some of your comments regarding which tire to choose and yes i agree that tires are tightly related to purpose. So, I'm still not sure 100% whether I should pay extra and get some radials, or keep to my previous choice the bias plys branded "corsa".
I should say that yes the radials are lighter, but strangely feel heavier in cornering. I cant explain why but i havent found any confidence in my current battlax bt92 tires. Everytime i meet a corner i have doubt on speed and approach. The oem tires, even some people say slip a lot, had brought me more confidence. I'm pretty sure it has to do with the size i choose and the characteristics of the bt92s as well, and i might be wrong that this is radial related.
Anyway, i have found some michellin tires here in indonesia, not cheap to ship to my place but it is an alternative i guess. Anyway, i had a discussion with the supplier, and he suggested that the pilot streets are not really recommended since they are not grippy enough (strange comming from the supplier). Anyway some people i know said the same thing hence bringing me back to square 1.
I am thinking that bias or radial has nothing to do with quality for grip. A good bias tire could be much better compared to a not too good developed radial tire.
Anyway, I'm starting to feel the roughness of the road on the steering. Im guessing i dont have much time left to decide before the tires become undriveable. Hahha.
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Hmm well that's true about radial and bias ply tires

My pirelli sport dragon tyres grip better than the pilot streets in the wet (no wobbling over the tar paint during rain).
Less bounciness during corners (not due to rebound damping settings, I assure you)

But the turn in for the pilot street radials are better than the sport dragons, that's for sure. Even at 15k km the pilot streets turn better than the sport dragons at 200 km
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Even at 15k km the pilot streets turn better than the sport dragons at 200 km
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'cos I have no discipline in inflating them
The Michelin shape seems to be a bit sharper, anyway. Plus more air, .... ;-)


Maybe try again with a bit (more) over-inflating?

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Hi guys


I finaly replaced my BT92s with a fresh set of IRC R88 Exatos... 110/70 front, and 150/60 back.

First impression...they feel strangely more stable than the BT92s (maybe has to do with the dimensions). They grip well, but havent tried them in the wet. Some pics after installed.

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Will try some twisty roads for a more accurate review...

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Is the front tire backwards? Or is with the Exato the tire tread direction the same?

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Is the front tire backwards? Or is with the Exato the tire tread direction the same?

Nope its the right way...i think it has the same tread direction as the backwheel


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