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post #1 of 27 Old 10-22-2016, 03:35 PM Thread Starter
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Engine seized

So due to bad decisions and a little bit of bad luck I installed my oil filter in the wrong direction. My bike stalled at 6th gear and now I can't get it to start up anymore. I sent it to the mechanic to check how bad the damage is and the report came back with a pre-evaluation that the piston and valve might be touching. Now I have the option of continuing with the full evaluation which will cost me about $450 in total, not including fixing the engine, assuming the pre-evaluation is correct. I bought my 2011 CBR 250 for $2500 a year ago and I'm wondering if I should continue with the evaluation and see how much it will cost to get it fixed and go from there or should I just sell my bike as a project bike? I'm living in Ohio, USA but I'm not sure how much I can get out of it. Any advice/suggestions?

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Have you investigated the price of a used engine? It should be about the same as the full evaluation.

If you are going to do your own maintenance, you need the proper tools and references, plus lots of time to do it slow and right. This is especially true for newbies and us old folks (we tend to forget what we've done if we stop for very long).

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Have you investigated the price of a used engine? It should be about the same as the full evaluation.

If you are going to do your own maintenance, you need the proper tools and references, plus lots of time to do it slow and right. This is especially true for newbies and us old folks (we tend to forget what we've done if we stop for very long).
Yea. It stands around 600 excluding shipping. It would match the price of a full eval but I'm not sure if it will be worth it considering I'm a student and will be busy with school. Not to mention winter is coming and I don't really have a place to fix it without having my fingers frozen.
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I am sorta in same boat. I would strongly suggest NOT to get an evaluation. save the money for swap engine. since winter is just around the corner you can take your time buying an engine and swap in spring. or sell the bike AS IS at a loss. I am planning to fix my bike myself. see IS MY ENGINE SEIZED. later greenleaf
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I would strongly suggest NOT to get an evaluation.

save the money for swap engine.
X1000.

Find an engine and move on.

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as you dont have the option of repair, it seems now
potential solutions come down to economics..

looks like you may need to bite the bullet,,
salvaging whatever you can from
your damaged motorcycle..

can family or suchlike help out here[?]
they if anyone will understand the importance
of avoiding stress during this student phase,,
and the relative importance of a dollar..
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Geez...I read about this problem so much on this website I'm a little surprised someone hasn't started a class-action suit against Honda for bad oil filter design leading to all these catastrophes.
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Geez...I read about this problem so much on this website I'm a little surprised someone hasn't started a class-action suit against Honda for bad oil filter design leading to all these catastrophes.
It's not a bad oil filter design. Less than 15 minutes of research would inform any competent lawyer that one would never stand even the slightest chance of winning or settling such a lawsuit claim... Honda has the proper oil filter replacement procedure well and clearly documented, both in the Owner's Manuals it provides to the original owners of these motorcycles, and in the Service Manuals it sells.

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The oil filter is dead simple. Easy to access and cheap.. I don't understand how this is such a common thing . I've been using the same gasket since I bought the bike lol. But mistakes happen. Sometimes when your moving through it you find out you messed up to late . But I would buy another motor or look into throwing this bike in as a trade . Some bike shops will take a seized bike for a decent amount Givin the circumstances. If you had the time and a warm garage I would def get a new engine. But do what makes the most sense financially to you.
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It's not a bad oil filter design. Less than 15 minutes of research would inform any competent lawyer that one would never stand even the slightest chance of winning or settling such a lawsuit claim... Honda has the proper oil filter replacement procedure well and clearly documented, both in the Owner's Manuals it provides to the original owners of these motorcycles, and in the Service Manuals it sells.
I was actually attempting to be more sarcastic than serious, Mike, but you have to admit it's a little frightening that so many cases like this have been posted since this forum's inception. For a bike that's generally considered "entry level" or a "beginners" bike by many, the consequences of not orientating something as basic as the oil filter correctly certainly are harsh.
Considering how most owner's manuals for virtually every product we buy these days have at least several pages of the most rudimentary warnings that only a complete idiot would ignore, even WITHOUT the benefit of a manual, you'd think that Honda would at least make a better attempt to stress the dangers inherent in new owners changing the oil on this model with a bit more urgency. I'm sure dealer-wide service bulletins have been issued for less catastrophic issues than this and the problem certainly seems common enough to warrant at least some kind of increased notification to buyers beyond what is legally required.
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