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post #21 of 56 Old 10-03-2017, 10:36 PM
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What next after CBR250R?

Whatever you get, if you donít ride a bike that often, you should get ethanol free fuel in it and put fuel stabilizer in it at all times.

I think it is worth the money to fix your CBR. That bike is worth no less than $2k in good running condition.
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bear in mind cbr600rr is made in japan, cbr650 first made in thailand
now made in india.. made as in assembled including indian brakes etc..
Not to nit pic your thoughtful post shisoshin, but to just to clarify... the CBR650F's assembled in India (presumably using a majority of parts & components supplied from Honda Thailand), are only for the Indian market, and as such are not exported outside of that country. The rest of Honda's markets throughout the world importing the CBR650F, get them from Honda Thailand.
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I too have been thinking that maybe it's time for a change and have demoed a number of possible replacements over the summer. Here are my thoughts on those I've ridden:

CBR500R (2013 and 2017) Either of these should have it on paper. More power, good fuel range, comfortable cruising up to 80mph. But once in the saddle they just didn't excite, just feeling like an underpowered big bike. With the extra weight you lose the easy chuckable nature of the 250 but without gaining enough power to make it a fair trade.

Triumph Street Triple (2010 and 2017). Loads of instant power, not too heavy but for UK riding I just can't bring myself to open my wallet for a bike with such an exposed riding position. On the 2017 bike I was following a car at 50mph and in either 5th or 6th just drove past it like it was standing still. From being behind it to getting in front I went from 50 to 80mph. The older bike didn't feel very much less powerful. The bottom end and midrange response are in a different world to the 600 fours (Bandit, Fazer, CBR) I've owned in the past.

Ninja 650 (2017). Light, nimble, good power, a full fairing, it should have been a winner but Kawasaki have engineered the throttle response to be so gradual and gentle you hardly notice you're accelerating and that's no fun. I didn't find the seat as comfortable as my CBR250R either.

Yamaha MT07 (FZ07 to some of you). A light fun bike, comfortable with instant throttle response that reminded me of riding my old DR350. No fairing but screens and handguards are available. The only problem is that once you start bolting on all sorts of aftermarket frippery like that the bike ends up looking a bit of a mess.

Am I being fussy? well yes I am but it's a significant amount of my own money I'm contemplating spending and each time when I've asked myself which bike I'd choose to repeat my summer trip to Scotland on the answer's always been the CBR250R I already own.
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No, but they are available elsewhere (Indonesia mostly, where they are produced) as a 250 twin.

There have been rumors of bumping it to a 300 or 350 for the U.S. market (to compete with the R3, Ninja 300, RC390) but that's just wishful thinking at this point.
Can confirm there are no plans for a worldwide release of the CBR250RR at this stage nor will there be an upgrade to the CBR300R for 2018. An additional color option was the only change, sadly. Honda really dragging the chain there.

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I looked at the CBx500x while at the dealership and that seemed to be a good choice. Any news of them getting a facelift in Oct?

Have to take a look at FZ-07.
The CB/R 500's got a facelift last year.

The best website for latest info on Honda's 2018 model range is easily this one:
Honda-Pro Kevin | Motorcycles / ATVs / UTVs - News, Reviews, Pictures & Videos, Specs + More!

Do look at the FZ-07, it's a fantastic bike. A mate of mine has one and I ride it regularly. A very engaging bike, feels good, sounds good. He has the optional yamaha screen/blade on it and it does a good job and no it doesn't look 'cluttered' at all.

Would also consider Suzuki SV650, another naked. Very nice handling bike with good sounding V twin engine.

Wild card option: Kawasaki are rumored to be bringing out a Ninja 400 next year. This is the basket I have my eggs in at the moment. Hopefully Tokyo motor show in three weeks time will reveal all and shortly after that there is the EICMA show in Milan. Generally the next years models are revealed at these two shows.

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Top of the consideration list for my next bike is the 2018 Ninja 400:

Kawasaki Ninja 400 on the way | MCN

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Top of the consideration list for my next bike is the 2018 Ninja 400:

Kawasaki Ninja 400 on the way | MCN
It does sound like that is going to happen.

I'd like to see a CBR350/400RR twin jump into the fight, but that doesn't sound quite as likely.
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It does sound like that is going to happen.

I'd like to see a CBR350/400RR twin jump into the fight, but that doesn't sound quite as likely.
Hopefully for 2019... hang on, I remember saying 'hopefully for 2018' this time last year!

It looks like the Ninja 400 is a happening thing so I'd say this will fire up Honda and Yamaha as no one likes being left behind. It is kind of unfortunate I guess that its become a cc war and you would imagine that it would have to stop at 400cc other wise you start to move out of the lightweight class and into the middle weight class.
I wouldn't be surprised if Honda respond with a 350cc bike to maintain a definitive gap between it and the CBR500.

Either way if I end up buying a Ninja 400 I would soon jump back to Honda if they bought out something that took my fancy. It's nothing that can't be sold again.

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More confirmation on the arrival of a Ninja 400 in the U.S. next year - 399cc 2018 Kawasaki Ninja 400 Confirmed for US
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More confirmation on the arrival of a Ninja 400 in the U.S. next year - 399cc 2018 Kawasaki Ninja 400 Confirmed for US
Interesting article. Yes I noticed on the Kawasaki USA website a few weeks back the absence of the 300 under the 2018 press releases.
Roll on the next couple of weeks then!

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With the upcoming release of a new Ninja 400, I'm kind of wondering if Honda might just take the view of keeping the CBR300R in their line as is and unchanged for a few more model years. It might make sense, especially if Yamaha decides they need to keep pace with Kawasaki and also up the displacement/performance specs of the R3. In theory, that scenario could leave Honda with little or no competition in the sub 300cc entry-level first-time buyer segment, and thereby regain a big chunk of market share for that segment.

And let's face it, Kawasaki is making what would seem to be a very smart move. Who would be the targeted buyers for a new Ninja 400?... you guessed it, all those riders who've been on CBR250R/300R's, Ninja 250/300's, R3's, and are now wanting a next step up in displacement.

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