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Yeah I saw that, lol. Also the tape across the seat of his pants...from a previous get-off? Looking closely at the front brake lever (during the slo-mo of the panic grab after the peg scraped), you can see that it is bent forward from some prior mishap. Hopefully the young fellow learns fast and stays safe.
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at 1:17 he pulls in front brake lever, and down..
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That is part of why I have ABS and shorty levers.

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Inevitable. Came into the turn too hot and unsettled the chassis before he even grabbed too much front brake.
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This has been posted here before. He was tense, leaned too far into the corner with an unsettled suspension and wasn't fully countersteering with his lean. He tapped a peg, instantly panic grabbed the front with an already unsettled unbalanced bike, front wheel jerked in the direction of turn and down you go. Not even ABS would have saved him there.

Rear seat wasn't even locked down; popped up before the bike even hit.

Tis better to be thought a fool and remain silent, than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt.
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compared to others [filmed] thru that curve
his bike was heading for at its end position
before crossing the apex [anyway]..

did seem to touch down his sneaker
[riding with heel on peg vs ball of foot]
then reacted pulling foot back about when
he hit front brake.. heading away from apex,
sneaker touches down, hits front brake
and holds it on until he hits the deck
then abandons ship..

lesson [for him] is prep for reducing radius turns
including throttle control/correct gear selection,
riding balls of feet on bars, not touching front brake
once into the corner [unless your rossi etc]

if it was a new curve/corner for him, not to mention
being filmed taking it,, you might expect him to
check it out first and do a few run-thru's, before
charging at it unprepared..

[perhaps he was a real rider doing a demo
for a 'how not to do it' training video...]
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This is a very well known spot in Malibu, the snake. I rode it a couple times. But mostly avoided riding there for the sheer number of riders that ride over there ability to try and get a PIC from rock store photos or Rnickey mouse.
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that corner/curve alone both up and down
had particular challenges for basic setup
and approach to up/downsloping corners..

ie, not particularly challenging, however
still very different up and downslope for
a rider capable enough on flat roads..

approaching new situations with care
switches on brain and learning potentials,,
also allowing wider ranges of options
if too fast or poorly aligned [etc]..

coming off as in that demo tho teaches
mainly a basic fear type response..
even if the otherwise rational rider
goes over it and looks for answers etc..

better to learn from small errors which
can be corrected without breaking things..
[or worse]

a worthwhile lesson in skilled motogp riders
needing to learn a new or less familiar circuit..
even resurfacing etc or new/different tyres
require many laps for familiarisation..

granted this is for racing, yet given the high
skills land equipment levels the lesson applies
for any rider.. learn the road or type of road,
uphill, downhill, reducing radius, wet surfaces
and so on.. bonus being real time increases in
potential braking distance and reaction times etc..
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