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post #11 of 13 Old 01-02-2017, 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Stichill View Post
It's interesting that we as bikers talk about "cagers" and it's true they are a threat to us...but equally our own risk-taking and inattentiveness are just as great if not greater threat.
It's always the fault of someone else.

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post #12 of 13 Old 01-02-2017, 02:46 PM
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Seriously, all incidents involving damage to bike or self were self-inflicted without a second party to blame. Sometimes I push the envelope too hard.

I had one incident where a car on my left, going the same direction, made a crossover to get an empty angle parking location. My left hand grip was wedged in his passenger door handle when we stopped, but the bike and I were undamaged.

PS If you let them get close enough to damage you, you were not paying enough attention to your surrounding conditions. Hence, it is always the riders fault.
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the arguments have all been secured..
there is, a significant risk to riders
from cars and car drivers..

there are, risks in riding a motorcycle,
even when there are no cars about..

my single off - with no car involved -
was hitting road kill on a blind low traffic
mountain roads reducing radius corner [ridden
daily to work].. what odds a cat or wallaby
being flattened at that exact point...

motorcycle cornering leaning over
was the other risk component..
so we do have additional risk factors..
on the other hand i avoided a head on
with a semi thru an S bend which he
could do nothing to avoid, yet my motorcycle
could [just] fit bye scraping the armco..
so we have advantages in size and escape routes..

anyway, both sides of the riding risk coin
are real.. differences being in degrees
and specifics.. both realities remain..
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