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First wreck, thankful it wasn't worse

Hello everybody! I would like to share my first wreck experience.

A few weeks back I went out with two of my riding buddies to cruise some back roads. And by cruise, I mean cruise. We weren't ripping through these roads by any means. If anything we were going under the speed limit. Anyways. These roads are very familiar, being that I ride/drive them almost every day. I was riding in front, and came around this blind turn. At the bottom of the turn, there was a huge wet spot that covered the road at the exit of the turn. I noticed this half way through, and took the turn a little bit tighter and straightened the bike out before I rode through the wet spot. After the turn, the road went slightly uphill, and is straight, so I checked my mirror for a second. When I did, I did not see my buddy behind my, and I could not tell if he had made it through the turn. So I started to apply the brakes to pull over. As I was doing this, I checked my mirror for a second, one more time before I pulled over. Doing so, I did not notice that I had drifted in my lane towards the edge of the road, and hit a patch of gravel which caused the rear wheel to lock up and slide out. My rear wheel slid sideways, before it caught the asphalt, which caused me to high side into the ditch to my right. I landed with my right arm out, and dislocated my elbow. When I realized what happened, I was on my stomach (elbow popped back into place) in the ditch. At this point, my buddy (who was behind me) had pulled over and was checking me over. I could not tell if my arm was broken or not, but I remember telling him I thought it was broken. After about 20 minutes or so of sitting on the side of the road, I got up and tried to take my jacket off, which at this point my elbow was so swollen it popped the elastic snap-button off of my jacket because it was so swollen. I had movement in my elbow, although very little. I ended up picking the bike up and straightening out the bars and rode a very painful ride home.

Overall, I can now see what I did wrong, and how I can prevent that in the future.

things I did wrong:

1. I applied the brakes without a full visual of what was ahead, and while checking my mirror
2. I opted to pull over in a spot where there was no shoulder. I should've slowed down safely and found a driveway or shoulder to park.

For those that are wondering, yes, I was wearing gear! Armored leather jacket, helmet, armored gloves, etc.

Damage to the bike was minimal. A very small scuff on the tank from the mirror breaking off and hitting the tank, and a few scratches on the exhaust.

Very thankful to be okay and back on two wheels, and to come to the realization that a wreck can happen in a split second, and I need to be extra cautious and aware of my surroundings when I am riding.

Stay safe out there!
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Hey man, I'm glad you're okay. Any crash that you can walk, let alone ride, away from is a "good" one.
Thanks for sharing your experience.

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Hey man, I'm glad you're okay. Any crash that you can walk, let alone ride, away from is a "good" one.
Thanks for sharing your experience.
Agreed.
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mate it can happen to - anyone-
circumstances, sequences of events, 'luck'..
i came off years ago thru a very well known
reducing radius blind corner/curve riding to
work thru blue mts nsw, hit road kill..
just enjoying the ride, the road, life..
right on my line, a flattened cat or wallaby..

aside from intellectual learning,
our rider brains also learn from experience
including negative experiences like these,,
which can if not blocked etc, by making
excuses etc, add to our reflex responses
and reaction time etc..
so something good can, come of it..

on specifics, we can and should imo
learn to take 'glimpses' at our mirrors,
rather than looking thru them
focusing on something behind..
[shutting off forward vision input]
this can be practiced in ongoing general
riding.. another specific riding skill..

the idea basically is to not deliberately
turn your neck and head sideways
to look, rather just the eyes, momentarily..
this can become as if using peripheral vision
whereby something can be seen without
focussing on it..
if you hold fists out as if on the bars
watching some focal point ahead,
then lift just a little finger of one hand,
without, turning anything to look at it
brain will still take it in, especially when
that is your intention..
[ie, brain 'knows' and will 'try to help']

this can become part of a standard head check,
with deliberate practice and also experience..
ie, whatever technique used, will automatically
become more efficient, less obvious,
quicker, but still sending images
to brain thu optic nerves..

handy practice is when in any traffic situation,
monitoring where they are and what they're doing..
say its more than one lane, regular 'glimpsing'
will tell you when a car has changed lanes
behind you [for eg], thus ongoing monitoring
of your changing road environment..

the more this is done deliberately,
the easier and better peripheral vision
and suchlike will develop and become
a useful riding skill/tool..

but regardless, as they say,
whats in front of you is
most important..

naturally you want to be aware of
potential rear-enders etc, but still,
a brick wall isnt going to
hit you from behind..
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I'm glad to hear your ok. Sorry about your elbow. I hope it heals well. Ice ice and ice. It sucks to have an accident but glad your able to understand what happened so it doesn't happen again.

Keep us informed how you heal up.
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Thanks tripppleppp. It is healing alright. It has been right at three weeks, and still has some swelling, and is tender around the joint. I went to the doctor and got a brace for it but will end up needing surgery at some point to regain full movement in the joint. Not the best outcome, but I am glad I can still move it!
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[couple of general observations
as one completing recovery from
multiple ligament damage and fractures]

assuming some damage to ligaments and/or
related connective tissues, it may be worthwhile
providing suchlike with appropriate nutrients
for any rebuilding/healing going on around
injured joints..
recommend chondroitin sulfate, glucosanine
[typically together], MSM [dimethyl sulfate],
calcium + vit d [typically together]

also fish oil at recommended dose for joints
[10g day] - but not before surgery -
unless your surgeon says otherwise..
[may influence agglutination of blood
thus facilitate bleeding]

my right knee was 'ruined' in a smash
three ligaments plus torn/split meniscus,,
knee specialist declined going in, due to;
'too much damage'.. recommended
continue natural healing, then 'when
the pain gets too much' come back
and he'll do a full knee replacement...

so 18mths + later and the knee is working
well.. has full range of movement
[full side splits for eg] and full squats
are possible when warmed up
or with minimal support..
pain also minimal, not a problem..

motorcyclists may experience major joint
impact thus damage as one factor of
our form of unprotected momentum,
especially into the road etc..
so its worthwhile having a good idea
of whats going on in there [xrays, scans,
expert diagnosis etc] but still, ultimately
we are on our own once out of intensive
care/emergency and any surgery..

today tho they have it down to a fine art
in places with advanced medicine etc,
if you have access to good advice
and expertise etc..
but still,, so much depends on your own
decisions,, what and how much you do
[very,, little in initial stages.. very little..]
how you respond to pain [handy symptom]
and access to patience and the bottom line..

so think long term for any joint damage..
context being full and complete recovery,
all things being equal..

recommend also researching your injury
including but beyond medical advice
from treating doctors etc..
eg, going online and seeking out
appropriate medical research etc,
which can be practically helpful
but also for the less obvious benefits
of feeding brain specific information..

fact is those with good understandings of
their condition, even heart patients etc,
do better than, those without similar
input to brain.. ie, its a real factor..

anyway, for anyone suffering ligament
etc damage and/or fractures, check out
those important supplements mentioned..
it wouldnt hurt anyone, esp the mature
aged, to consider such support..
[very handy if joints are being well fed
with ingredients for natural growth
and ongoing repair, before,
ligament rupture, muscle tearing
or bone fracture]

also my tissue is old to begin with,
so anyone can have a good outcome
with the right approach/attitude..
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I think loose sand and gravel takes down more riders than any other road hazard. Especially at this time of year here in the Northeast. The weather starts to turn warm again and people jump on their bikes with little regard for the accumulation of sand bordering the roads and built up at intersections from battling the previous winter's storms. It usually takes a few weeks for road crews to clear it all and make the roads safe for riders again, but an early 60 or 70 degree day and a lot of riders let their guard down. Unexpected sand and gravel in a curve took me down for the first time in over 35 years of riding a couple of years ago and that was in mid-summer well after all the winter sand had already been cleared. An overnight deluge washed a large amount of sand into the main road I was riding on with a friend and although he barely made it through by hanging off his much heavier bike, I wasn't so lucky. Just proves that no matter the time of year, we need to always be aware of road conditions ahead and always expect the unexpected.
My poor new Ninja 250R was totaled in that accident and I spent a week in the hospital and more weeks recovering at home, but it was still an invaluable lesson that's made me a much better and safer rider since. If you ever watch any of those "crash" videos on YouTube one thing becomes clear almost immediately. Most of these riders who crash are riding too fast and aren't anticipating what hazards could await them in the road ahead. There's little planning for avoidance or room to decelerate safely in time. If you're only riding "in the moment" and not looking and thinking much farther down the road, that lack of preparation and attention WILL eventually come back and bite you.
Riding with friends only increases the need to pay more attention to road conditions, since the presence of other bikes can be a major distraction unless it's something you do regularly and are used to. There are a lot of "slogans" in this sport. "Ride at your OWN pace in a group", "Don't ride faster than you're willing to crash", "If it looks slippery, it probably is", etc. It can be daunting to keep all of those motorcycling "truisms" firmly stuck in your head at all times when riding, especially on the first few glorious Spring days of a new riding season, but they've been part of the sport for decades for good reason. The one you forget may just be the one that nags you for the weeks and months during your recovery from a crash, but I guarantee you it will be the one you will never forget again.
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also wet leaves in corners after rain..
they say 'look thru, the corner'..
but after rain especially, 'look thu it'
means scan into, as part of 'thru it'..
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