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While I've had my m2 for 5 year, I'm buying my first bike now. I'm looking at the 2012 Honda CBR 250r non-ABS and a Kawasaki 250r.

I know the kawi is tried and true with a bullet proof reputation for reliability and resale value, but how does the honda compare?

I hope I "posted" my question correctly in this forum, thee seem to be a lot of rules regarding forum etiquette.
 

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If you want FI, ABS, and low end torque the cbr is the way to go. Honda also has a tried and true reputation. I've rode both the bikes and prefer the honda. Last bike show compaired craft-manship with the pastics and Honda won out. At the end of the day will be your choice as far as specs, comfort and looks.
 

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Welcome to the site.
I've had mine for a year and have over 5k miles with no problems at all, this bike is rock solid.
 

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Not sure why you use the term lemon with a bike you don't own...sounds like you already decided about it in your mind. That being said Fuel Injection/MPG was what beat the ninja out for me. Carbs aren't some evil thing BUT waiting to take off/feathering the choke in the morning wasn't fun on any carb bike I've owned. Combined with best in class fuel economy and it was a sure thing for me. Granted that sometimes I miss my bigger bikes...only to smile when I fill up. Hell I have only managed an average of about 65 mpg (I refuse to "tuck" at highway speeds mpg be damned-actually I did try to tuck and found @6'1" it was better for me to sit on the passenger seat :) )
 

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except from those with the Indian made bike so as long as you're not in India
Care to explain the defects found in India pls?

but how does the honda compare?
We get both FI Kawi as well as FI CBR, so it doesn't matter much; we'd run several times on both Ninja & CBR; each time they tank up Kawi, we also refuel CBR, just that Ninja gobbles about 3-4 gallons, while CBR barely about 3 gallons.

Unless there's a long straights, CBR keeps up with Ninja 250R

Upto 63 mph, CBR takes the lead & after that Ninja takes the lead

If you ride on twisties, CBR is fun, a lot of fun; on bad (or offroading) nothing comes closer to the comfort of CBR.

CBR is more of city, offroad & touring motorcycle than the track oriented Ninja 250R.

Oh!!! BTW, what I shared above is my 14000 miles of experience in less than a year
 

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Not sure why you use the term lemon with a bike you don't own...sounds like you already decided about it in your mind. That being said Fuel Injection/MPG was what beat the ninja out for me. Carbs aren't some evil thing BUT waiting to take off/feathering the choke in the morning wasn't fun on any carb bike I've owned. Combined with best in class fuel economy and it was a sure thing for me. Granted that sometimes I miss my bigger bikes...only to smile when I fill up. Hell I have only managed an average of about 65 mpg (I refuse to "tuck" at highway speeds mpg be damned-actually I did try to tuck and found @6'1" it was better for me to sit on the passenger seat :) )
I actually love the CBR more than the ninja. I just couldn't think of a better term then lemon to describe what I was asking. I guess I could have said:

Does the CBR has reliability issues?
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Is the CBR a POS?
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Does anyone regret their purchase over a ninja 250r?

Regardless, I think the CBR looks better and I enjoy the new technology it has.
 

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Stay away from the Ninja 250r if you are smart. When you sit on it in the showroom it feels like a pig to be a 250 bike. You will feel instantly comfortable on the cbr250r. I had the same dilemma b4 I pulled the trigger on a bike UNTIL I SAT ON BOTH BIKES.

The ninjette is a 90's bike in pretty packaging with an old technology carb and playskool analog gauges. You will not get the extra low end torque like you will get on the cbr250r, so 0-40 will feel quicker on the cbr250r. The only real benefit to the ninja 250r is the little bit extra top end speed you get which isn't really worth it. Really, you will want the low end torque, especially for commuting.

You will really appreciate the fuel injection on the cbr250r on a really cold morning. I know what a pita a carb is b/c I had a scooter with a carb and I hated it. Also, with the honda you get a fuel gauge, clock and a 100% accurate digital Speedometer (radar and GPS verified), which is almost unheard of in the motorcycle world, most speedometers are off by at least 10%.
 

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Also, with the honda you get a fuel gauge, clock and a 100% accurate digital Speedometer (radar and GPS verified), which is almost unheard of in the motorcycle world, most speedometers are off by at least 10%.
My CBR is about 10% off. As are a lot, from what I've been reading over the last few months.
 

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My CBR is about 10% off. As are a lot, from what I've been reading over the last few months.
I bet that is b/c your speedo is probably in KM instead of MPH b/c you are in another country that uses the metric system of measurement. I bet the speedos on this bike were tailored to MPH.
 

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That typical speedometer error is annoying when you have more than one bike. Oh yeah is this one 11% off or is this one correct? I always bought speedoDRD's to correct them... Kawasaki, Honda, Yamaha, whatever. Weirdly, I have 3 hondas now, 2-2011's and a 2012 and they all came correct (within a mile/hour).
 

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Why do you ask if its a 'Lemon' 'POS' ?

test ride them both, see which one fits you.
they are both good bikes, big sellers, and only as good as their owners.
 

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If you ride on twisties, CBR is fun, a lot of fun; on bad (or offroading) nothing comes closer to the comfort of CBR.

CBR is more of city, offroad & touring motorcycle than the track oriented Ninja 250R.
What do you mean by "off road"?

I really can't imagine anyone thinking that a CBR is suited to off road use. I have several Honda XR's, Dual Sport and Off Road models. Maybe your definition of off road is different than what we here in the US think of as an off road motorcycle? I have to ride 0.2 of a mile on gravel road from my house to get to the paved road, which I navigate at about 10 mph on the CBR. Any faster than that would increase the possibility of dropping the bike.
 

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EX250 Ninja track orientated?

seriously?
 

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I bet that is b/c your speedo is probably in KM instead of MPH b/c you are in another country that uses the metric system of measurement. I bet the speedos on this bike were tailored to MPH.
All of the rest of world CBR250R's speedos are 8% fast. The US speedos are the only ones that are dead on whether set to miles or km. And all of the odo's are dead on.
 

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I have the CBR, my wife has a Ninja. She went with the Ninja cause she's Asian and wanted to say she rides a ninja, don't ask... lol - Anyway I prefer the CBR, and my wife does too, though she hates to admit it... Don't get me wrong, the Ninja is a great bike, but the the lack of fuel injection was my biggest complaint.
 
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