Looks like Honda is bringing back the Rebel for 2012 (timing and price TBD). Check out:
2012 Rebel Overview - Honda Powersports
2012 Rebel Overview - Honda Powersports
... and 'air-cooled' (just lovely for sitting in traffic - 'commuter' my a$$).I'm surprised the Rebel is carbureted.
Out of curiosity, what part of the ergos are problematic for you? I wonder if Helibars or such are available to fit the 250R yet.My one complaint about the CBR is the ergonomics. I'd love to have it's 26 hp and fuel injection with a Rebel riding position - or for that matter the old Nighthawk 250 riding position.
Just seems like an upright posture, the way I'm used to riding street bikes, with my weight distributed in what feels like a "normal' way ends putting the tank up my nuts and my hands just a bit further back then I'd like. I don't find it comfortable at all although I am getting used to it. It would help if motorcycles came with adjustable steering just like most cars these days.Out of curiosity, what part of the ergos are problematic for you? I wonder if Helibars or such are available to fit the 250R yet.
The two really don't compete with each other. Some riders, especially newbies, just aren't in the market for a sporter style bike. The Rebel is easy to ride and comfortable. Also - there's something to be said for the simple oil/air cooling, same as the Nighthawk 250 and 750. Newbies drop bikes and you can drop a Rebel, pick it up, and keep riding as long as it's a low speed drop. Look at some of the recent threads featuring CBR's that went down - even just a nudge in a parking lot from a car. Lotta heartache.Whatever the case may be for the new Rebel; I just don't understand why it has a higher MSRP than the cbr250r and its not even fuel injected. But don't get me wrong; by no means am I implementing that Honda should raise the price tag of the cbr250r but they should lower the Rebel's.
There are a BUNCH of bikes they didn't bring to the states in 10 and 11.The CBR250R is a smallish bike. The Rebel is smaller. If you are seriously "inseam challenged", the Rebel might make sense, otherwise there are better choices in my opinion. There's a reason Honda didn't bring any Rebels to the States in 2010 and 2011. If I wanted a bike like that, I'd buy the V-Star 250 (I actually looked at the V-Star before ordering the CBR).
YMMV.
Whatever the case may be for the new Rebel; I just don't understand why it has a higher MSRP than the cbr250r and its not even fuel injected. But don't get me wrong; by no means am I implementing that Honda should raise the price tag of the cbr250r but they should lower the Rebel's.
It'd better not be, especially if there are no drastic changes to the bike that would justify the significant price increase. Besides, If the price remains the same for the new CBR250r next year; Honda will have a tremendous choke hold over Kawasaki whom are still choking their 2012 Ninja250's in the United States but now for a higher MSRP. If Honda maintains the current MSRP for the 2012 CBR250Rs, they could possibly and perhaps easily sweep the 250cc class from under Kawasaki in the United States.I imagine the CBR250 is the price is is because the Ninja 250 is the price it is. I wouldn't be surprised if the 2012 CBR is 500 bucks higher.
It'd better not be, especially if there are no drastic changes to the bike that would justify the significant price increase. Besides, If the price remains the same for the new CBR250r next year; Honda will have a tremendous choke hold over Kawasaki whom are still choking their 2012 Ninja250's in the United States but now for a higher MSRP. If Honda maintains the current MSRP for the 2012 CBR250Rs, they could possibly and perhaps easily sweep the 250cc class from under Kawasaki in the United States.
i start to think the same way... the cbr250r is not cbr600rr but the rebel is just comfyMy one complaint about the CBR is the ergonomics. I'd love to have it's 26 hp and fuel injection with a Rebel riding position - or for that matter the old Nighthawk 250 riding position.