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About to buy!!!! Couple questions?

hopefully I'm not being taken... I just put down a deposit on a new red CBR 250 R with ABS! The only fee that they're charging me is a 300 dollar fee I'm not sure exactly what that's for but they're not charging any other fees out the door price is 5000 dollars. This includes that fee plus tax title plate. Before I send any paperwork I was thinking about asking them to throw in a helmet and pair of gloves. Before 300 dollar fee the price listed was $4199. Brand new no miles. Do you guys think that is a good deal and you think I might be able to push a helmet and gloves out of them?

Also as a first time buyer is there anything I should know before I sign anything?
 

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I forgot to mention I have some 2013 models in stock pricing was a bit higher.

Got to see the respol as well nice looking but the additional cost was a bit much for the different paint job.
 

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A 2012 CBR250RA ABS has a MSRP of $4599... so they have penciled that down to $4199, plus $300 = $4499. If the OTD is $5000, then your TT&L is $500, right?... I've no idea what your state sales tax rate (or state motor vehicle excise tax rate), or what the motor vehicle title, license & registration fees are. Does $500 sound right for where you live?... Seems a bit high to me for TT&L.

Here in New Mexico, I paid $163.97 to the state for MVD Excise Tax, Title, and Lic & Reg on my non-ABS CBR, which had a selling price of $4099 plus $175 Doc fees... so $4274 paid OTD to the dealer.

As for getting a "free" helmet and gloves, if they agree to throw in something in the deal, I wouldn't expect to get anything that would be considered high quality. To be honest, I'd much rather work out the best deal on the bike itself, forget the swag gear, and buy the best riding gear that you can afford. Like with so many other things "You Get What You Pay For" applies to so called "free" riding gear.

Are you paying cash, or are you financing through the dealer?
 

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A 2012 CBR250RA ABS has a MSRP of $4599... so they have penciled that down to $4199, plus $300 = $4499. If the OTD is $5000, then your TT&L is $500, right?... I've no idea what your state sales tax rate (or state motor vehicle excise tax rate), or what the motor vehicle title, license & registration fees are. Does $500 sound right for where you live?... Seems a bit high to me for TT&L.

Here in New Mexico, I paid $163.97 to the state for MVD Excise Tax, Title, and Lic & Reg on my non-ABS CBR, which had a selling price of $4099 plus $175 Doc fees... so $4274 paid OTD to the dealer.

As for getting a "free" helmet and gloves, if they agree to throw in something in the deal, I wouldn't expect to get anything that would be considered high quality. To be honest, I'd much rather work out the best deal on the bike itself, forget the swag gear, and buy the best riding gear that you can afford. Like with so many other things "You Get What You Pay For" applies to so called "free" riding gear.

Are you paying cash, or are you financing through the dealer?


Ill be financing dealer/ honda @2.99% tax here is 6.5% i know the plate alone new plate is over 200 by itself
 

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Wow, Florida hits you hard for the tax, title & license... my excise tax was 3%, or $122.97, and the title, plate and 2 year registration was $41.00.


If im reading the fee schedule for orange county correctly the first tag/plate is 225 what is not clear is if this applies to motorcycles too...renewel is much cheaper... the fee schedule for registration here is extremely confusing.
 

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Sounds like a pretty decent deal for an ABS model if that's the true OTD price. Congrats and welcome, you won't be disappointed by the bike!


Thanks i knew it was below msrp I scour the internet trying to find what the invoice cost of those are. Whenever I buy a new car I always try to find out what the invoices price is there and use that to negotiate. However trying to find invoice pricing on the CBR 250 was impossible. If anything I didn't know and I need to ask more detail is exactly what the 300 dollar fee the dealer is charging is for
 

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Well I picked her up and brought her home tonight. The people behind me when I first left the dealership probably didn't like me very much as I was only doing 25 in a 45. However as time went on I manage to get up to speed properly. it was a long drive home and started to get dark I was nervous but glad I did it and enjoy the ride but still nervous and embarrassingly enough stalled the bike twice because it was stop and go traffic
 

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Wow, it's so confusing price wise buying a bike in America. I know that we pay more over here, but the price you see on the website, is the price you pay on the road. :confused:
I'm guessing that in the UK taxes and license/registration fees are the same for a given bike, no matter what part of the country you live in?

Here in the U.S., sales taxes can vary a lot from one city or county, to another, not to mention from state to state... the same is true for license/registration fees. Also some dealers may end up paying more for freight than other dealers, depending how far they are from American Honda's nearest warehouse. From what I understand, all Honda dealers here pay the same invoice price for the bikes, so that's about the only constant.
 

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I'm guessing that in the UK taxes and license/registration fees are the same for a given bike, no matter what part of the country you live in?

Here in the U.S., sales taxes can vary a lot from one city or county, to another, not to mention from state to state... the same is true for license/registration fees. Also some dealers may end up paying more for freight than other dealers, depending how far they are from American Honda's nearest warehouse. From what I understand, all Honda dealers here pay the same invoice price for the bikes, so that's about the only constant.
Yes, VAT (Value Added Tax) is currently 20% on top of all non-essential goods, with this bloody austerity programme our government's running at the moment. :mad:
 

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Amazing how many things can affect the price.

Well it's been 2 days I still feel like I have a lot of learning to do. Honestly the hardest part for me is dealing with shifting up and down and remembering what gear I'm in. I am really enjoying the ride I just hope the whole shift in thing become second nature soon. And first gear seems to be a little tricky for me after seeing so many videos on YouTube of the bike taking off and people fly off it. I have to keep reminding myself more trouble more clutch control.
 
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