ABS on the Honda CBR250R?

I read several reviews where the abs was operated by the rear brake only. One of the reviews even had them doing stoppies, (reverse wheelie on the front tire). I checked my manual but it does not specify if its activated by just the rear brake.
The abs system on the CBR is supposed to be a more economical version of whats on there other bikes.

fact----ty madd trapper ,lol,i knew i saw it somewhere and i wasnt going crazy

The manual implies that both kutter and Ferrix are correct - if you hit the front brake you get two pucks up front with antilock. If you hit the rear brake you get the rear brake plus 1 puck up front, still antilock. The "stoppies" referred to could possibly be braking aggressively and waiting for the ABS to disengage at 6 mph (per the manual)

ABS is a choice in most places, get it if you want it. However, never delude yourself that antilock will reduce or eliminate the need for skill acquisition and decision-making, nor will it allow you to ignore the laws of physics. If you rely on ABS to the exclusion of the other factors, you're in for a rude awakening.

Luke

Luke where in the manual did you find that? Only thing I can find is on page 11 and it doesnt specify anything like what you said.

Don't have it with me today - I'll go through it again tonight. This is the small blue owner's manual that came with my bike. Do you have the bullets I posted earlier on page 11 as I did?

I am inferring a little - the manual could be a lot more clear. However, someone (xplorguy?) had a really good point earlier in this topic - that it would be stupid for Honda to design an ABS system that allows you to lock up the front end by grabbing a handful of lever.

Thats the same manual I have. Actually who ever wrote it did a lousy job.

100% in agreement on the writing part!

Luke said:

ABS is a choice in most places, get it if you want it. However, never delude yourself that antilock will reduce or eliminate the need for skill acquisition and decision-making, nor will it allow you to ignore the laws of physics. If you rely on ABS to the exclusion of the other factors, you're in for a rude awakening.

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Luke makes an important point here.

I have never operated a vehicle with ABS. However, I see it as a worthwhile aid; a back up, but no substitute for basic riding skills and common sense. Ideally it should never be needed. In reality it will help save life and limb.

For day to day use I feel the C (combined) aspect of Honda's C-ABS will be more important and useful. Hit the back brake, and the front brake is partially activated too. It makes getting coordination just right less critical.

Anybody who thinks the ABS works only when the foot brake is used, should look again at the diagram.

Luke said:

Don't have it with me today - I'll go through it again tonight. This is the small blue owner's manual that came with my bike. Do you have the bullets I posted earlier on page 11 as I did?

I am inferring a little - the manual could be a lot more clear. However, someone (xplorguy?) had a really good point earlier in this topic - that it would be stupid for Honda to design an ABS system that allows you to lock up the front end by grabbing a handful of lever.

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The CBR250 C-ABS works via the front or the rear brake. I think this should be clear by now. The combining takes place if you depress the rear brake only...this will activate the center puck of three pucks on the front brake. If the rider squeezes the front brake only..you may activate abs via the two outside pucks of the front brake.
The non abs CBR has a two puck system up front, vs. the 3 puck system of the ABS optioned version.
You are never without ABS no matter how you have chosen to utilize the front or rear brake in an otherwise lock-up situation.

So I couldn't find any information as detailed as in this forum, which I became a member of after I had put in my order for a black non ABS. Although It's not too late to get my hands on an ABS, I don't see the point really. Why get it when I can just learn to brake the proper way? I'm aware of the emergency situations it could get me out of, but I'm going to try my best to drive safely without it once again this forum is so helpful, thanks everyone

i using the cbr250 as my main transport. i ride in the rain and road paint in israel i very slippery.
in a 15 km ride to my work i loosing traction like 15-20 time becouse of road markings.
if was without abs i will have great time on the ground

Im kind of thinking that I should have not got an ABS version. I wish I could compare it to a non abs bike but I can't because this is my first bike. I do plan on upgrading to a 600cc by summer or end of year. The one im looking at does not have an ABS option. And that is what is bugging me.

Do i regret getting the ABS of course not. I am just noe wondering about the transition from an ABS to non ABS. Especially from 250 to 600 respectively.

I wonder if Honda Service can tell me how many times I activated ABS? Can they do that? That probably would tell me if I should look for a 600 with ABS. If I have not activated it then that tells me I am using proper braking, I guess.

ABS only comes on when one of your wheels loses traction under braking. When it does, you'll know about it. It's like a juddering in the brake lever. Under normal braking, you can't tell the difference between ABS and non-ABS. It does give you more confidence to brake hard in emergency situations, and you're less likely to fall off in those situations.

For the life of me i cant understand why anyone would not buy the ABS bike. In my mind it's a safety system that does not work until such time as its needed, the rest of the time it is not in use.
Most of my riding has been done on cruisers and within that part of the motorcycle community there is such strong resistance to ABS it baffles me.
With so many illegal/dangerous drivers in london, im happy to know i can give a hard application and not have the bike loose traction.

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my cbf 600s had abs, and my 750 black spirit did not. i doubt i will ever own a non abs bike again.

I have had both ABS and non ABS bikes. I really dont care either way. Its not a selling point to me I would for sure buy a bike without ABS and not worry about it. I have a Yamaha F.J.R. with 26,000 miles on it. To date ive never used the ABS.

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I have had both ABS and non ABS bikes. I really dont care either way. Its not a selling point to me I would for sure buy a bike without ABS and not worry about it. I have a Yamaha F.J.R. with 26,000 miles on it. To date ive never used the ABS.

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Same here but the situation is reversed. My CBR has ABS, my FJR doesn't.

I look at ABS like frame sliders. I don't ever plan on using them, but I was sure glad I had them when I dumped my FJR on it's side in a low speed tip over.

Same thing for the ABS.

Mind you I did lock up the back and the FRONT when a guy oncoming in a two lane fell asleep. Don't know how I didn't go down but I didn't. Managed to scrub off enough speed before I hit the shoulder. I knew I locked the back up but when I stopped and looked at the skid mark I left I was *SHOCKED* to see two of them!

$500 is WAY cheap insurance over the life of the bike. Plus, I should be able to recoup it at re-sell time.

CBR250R said:

Thanks Xplorguy! I tried to make the trip report entertaining, yet descriptive and informative for others thinking about doing the same thing. I had so much fun doing it - I am hoping by sharing it I might inspire others on this site to tour and camp on their CBR250Rs.

Mike

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Once I get mine, I would like to o on a short camping trip, an suggestions tips ?