[Cytochromec]

I recently got some great feedback on clip ons and decided to make a similar thread about the bazzaz fuel injector I am thinking about purchasing. I was originally set (from an economic standpoint) to make the jump to a gsxr600, but life takes its turns and that purchase has been postponed long term. I can scrap funds for a bazzaz injector though, but was wondering what people who have one think? Worth the $300? I mainly just use the bike for canyon running now (was orignally for commuting, again, life takes it turns) and just hate that lack of pull. Its so weak it messes your line and when things go uphill you cant depend on your momentum or the engine pulling you up. So, bazzaz $300, will it really help? Thanks mates.

 

[Tiger2016]

Really eager to see the responses to this question.

 

[Cambobomb]

I've never used one. I've read a bit on here about them as I was interested too, for what it's worth. It seems like you'd get a small, but noticeable boost. It sounds like you might get used to it right away because it's not that much of a difference. And you need to add a full exhaust system while you're at it to make it worthwhile. So, figure about a grand in total and a bunch of your time. If you love your 250 to bits, maybe it's worth it. I'm saving the cash for my next bike. A bigger bike. A wasted a tonne of cash on my Ruckus trying to squeeze out a bit more oomph from it's 49cc engine. In the end, you need more displacement. Honda has already done a great job getting power out of the CBR engine. If you try to get more out of it, you might sacrifice reliability.

 

[Cytochromec]

I've never used one. I've read a bit on here about them as I was interested too, for what it's worth. It seems like you'd get a small, but noticeable boost. It sounds like you might get used to it right away because it's not that much of a difference. And you need to add a full exhaust system while you're at it to make it worthwhile. So, figure about a grand in total and a bunch of your time. If you love your 250 to bits, maybe it's worth it. I'm saving the cash for my next bike. A bigger bike. A wasted a tonne of cash on my Ruckus trying to squeeze out a bit more oomph from it's 49cc engine. In the end, you need more displacement. Honda has already done a great job getting power out of the CBR engine. If you try to get more out of it, you might sacrifice reliability.

Very good point on the exhaust, which I forgot to mention I already have. So my total cost would be $300. As much as Im not fond of the loudness, I slapped a silencer on it and cant justify switching back to stock.

The plan very much was to upgrade, but I cant stand the slowness of the bike now since I only do canyon runs with it. I initially bought it for commuting and commuted with it daily for the better part of the last year. It would hold me out until I could afford the upgrade, where I would keep both one for the weekends and one for the commutes.

Its a fun bike in the twists, but its down-right pathetic on some twists. On ACH past newcombs where the elevation is 4-8k, the bike cant even go downhill fast without suffering from the thinned air.

Naturally you dont want to deck this bike out since it has way more lacking in performance area other than just speed: suspension, forks, breaks, ergos, etc. It would cost less to buy a brand new 600. But I cant even hit some canyons with it. Its actually MORE dangerous in these canyons where it cant pull, as you lose so much speed your forced to straighten her out and run wide. Its hard to predict which twist you will all of a sudden lose 5mph on.

 

[notsure23]

Very good point on the exhaust, which I forgot to mention I already have. So my total cost would be $300. As much as Im not fond of the loudness, I slapped a silencer on it and cant justify switching back to stock.

The plan very much was to upgrade, but I cant stand the slowness of the bike now since I only do canyon runs with it. I initially bought it for commuting and commuted with it daily for the better part of the last year. It would hold me out until I could afford the upgrade, where I would keep both one for the weekends and one for the commutes.

Its a fun bike in the twists, but its down-right pathetic on some twists. On ACH past newcombs where the elevation is 4-8k, the bike cant even go downhill fast without suffering from the thinned air.

Naturally you dont want to deck this bike out since it has way more lacking in performance area other than just speed: suspension, forks, breaks, ergos, etc. It would cost less to buy a brand new 600. But I cant even hit some canyons with it. Its actually MORE dangerous in these canyons where it cant pull, as you lose so much speed your forced to straighten her out and run wide. Its hard to predict which twist you will all of a sudden lose 5mph on.

Charging turns will cost you speed. Sounds like a DR as well

 

[Cytochromec]

Whats a DR? Charging turns? What kind of engine does yours have? Mine is only a 249cc 4 valve 23bhp thumper. I couldnt charge a u-turn.

 

[DieselMaxPower]

Sell your bike and get a used one that fits your need. Modifying a 250 is a fools game.

 

[SDM]

UMMM thanks..


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Sell your bike and get a used one that fits your need. Modifying a 250 is a fools game.

These bikes a cheap to buy so do what you want with YOUR bike.

 

[verybigtiter6]

not worth it bro.. i know you will need bazzaz if you make ur exhaust a full system. even with a full exhaust and bazzaz, you still wont get the torque that you want like on a 600cc. i have an r6 so i know what you are looking for.

 

[DieselMaxPower]

UMMM thanks..


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These bikes a cheap to buy so do what you want with YOUR bike.

Modifying a bike to make it yours is fine. People who get on the highway and think, "if I get mod 'x' this bike will magically have the power to go as fast as I want" are kidding themselves. I like mods. L2r's ride comes to mind as one of my favorites. Yachting1 also has a badass setup. The OP is complaining about lack of pull and hills. Anything besides forced induction will fall short. Even then... who knows.

Didn't mean to offend you or anyone else. Buying a fast bike is the cheapest way to get a fast bike.

 

[Aufitt]

Thats $300 you should be spending on 2 track days with coaching.

That performance will transfer to every motorcycle you own.

 

[SDM]

Modifying a bike to make it yours is fine. People who get on the highway and think, "if I get mod 'x' this bike will magically have the power to go as fast as I want" are kidding themselves. I like mods. L2r's ride comes to mind as one of my favorites. Yachting1 also has a badass setup. The OP is complaining about lack of pull and hills. Anything besides forced induction will fall short. Even then... who knows.

Didn't mean to offend you or anyone else. Buying a fast bike is the cheapest way to get a fast bike.

LOL not offended at all, just giving you a bad time.

Yes the 250 is way under powered, but its not an RR just a single pumper that will give you everything it has all day long, and then when your tired she is still ready to go, and she will get 65+ MPG!!!!

If big bikes where cheap where I live I would have bought one instead of the little 250, but she is mine and modded to what I wanted. Still thinking of putting a single sided rear on it

 

[Cytochromec]

Sell your bike and get a used one that fits your need. Modifying a 250 is a fools game.

I put over 10K miles on this bike, no way Im selling it for $2000-$3000 only to be short another $3000-$4000 I dont have, and then start shopping shady craigslist. Or, be short $5000+ if Im walking into a dealership.

Modding a 250 might be madness, but economically its all I can do for a long while. Trust me, if a swapping was in any realistic way an option I would figure it out.

 

[Aufitt]

Modififations wont make you any faster... oh I feel a new thread coming on lol.

 

[Rusty Shackleford]

Fuel controllers will remap for the exhaust providing a little gain technically, sure, but I'd be realistic about your expectations. The bike already makes the vast majority of the power it's going to make.

DieselMaxPower and Aufitt, bite your tongues haha, but Cytochromec; what sprockets are you running? Regearing is an inexpensive way to help you out with hills and get more pull.

 

[ecustu7]

There is nothing wrong with modifying a 250. I'm putting a full exhaust on mine and may end up putting a Bazzaz on as well. I know that it wont make it act like a 600 because I have rode a 600 and I know the difference. But modifying can help give the bike just a little more horsepower and make it look better.

 

[Empty Sea]

After reading this forum for the last several months, I have decided that, if I get enough dough to modify this bike, I will do the exhaust first and see how well the stock ecu plays with it. If I don't get the results I want, I will change the ecu and/or the sprocket. I would be looking to increase straight line and up hill performance with these changes. My stock CBR250r can cut through the turns at a much speed than its rider can and that's where a track day or three may come into play...besides, track days sound like a kick.

 

[NSU]

I put over 10K miles on this bike, no way Im selling it for $2000-$3000 only to be short another $3000-$4000 I dont have, and then start shopping shady craigslist. Or, be short $5000+ if Im walking into a dealership.

Modding a 250 might be madness, but economically its all I can do for a long while. Trust me, if a swapping was in any realistic way an option I would figure it out.

You might end up like one of those guys who buys a lower model Civic because he can't afford the up front hit for an Si, and then spends the next four years putting a few hundred here and there until he's modified it to make 80% of the power of an Si and spent 120% the cost of an Si.

Keep flogging the 250 stock, your resale value has already hit the floor. There are an army of n00bs replenished every spring who will buy 250s for $2500 with 10,000 miles and $2500 with 17,000 miles.

Save your pennies. Every marginal dollar you sink into the 250 is at least a dollar lost (mods may lower resale value) and whatever performance boost you get will be a tiny fraction of the boost you'd get from applying that dollar to another bike.

 

[Wynne G Oldman]

I've always said that if you want a fast bike, you're going to get much better value for your money by buying a decent, second hand one, instead of buying a slow bike, and trying to make it fast.

 

[Cytochromec]

I've always said that if you want a fast bike, you're going to get much better value for your money by buying a decent, second hand one, instead of buying a slow bike, and trying to make it fast.

Already mentioned it, the plan was to buy two different bikes that do different things, never panned out. I dont even consider the CBR a sport bike (its 100% a commuter, 0% sport), so I never bought it to speed on to begin with.

NSU, good point. I would hate be "that" guy.

Aufit, thats the spirit. Never upgrade!