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don't forget that new riders (especially new to riding) need to drive like miss daisy for a little more than 400 miles
didn't we have this debate already !?
let's get off the worries and back to the tuning !!
Break in myth. Listen to Honda!
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didn't we have this debate already !?
let's get off the worries and back to the tuning !!
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haha.. yeah maybe thats why they recommend a slow break in.don't forget that new riders (especially new to riding) need to drive like miss daisy for a little more than 400 miles
didn't we have this debate already !?
let's get off the worries and back to the tuning !!
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I agree with this, I build engines on a weekly basis and have never "brokein in" an engine or had a failure. The single most important part is to heat cycle the engine 2 or 3 times. On a 4 stroke all you need to do ia "break in" the cam which is brokein in within an half hour.
I don't know what you use, but for smaller motors I know they use an oven for the heat cycles so that by the time its mounted, warm it up, make sure its good to go for 10-20 minutes and then good to go.
I'm having a hard time coming to terms with the 600 mile maintenance considering my knowledge of motors and would rather spend the 200+ bucks in several other ways for the bike.
Did you have any symptoms of tight valves or just simply they reported that? I guess I'm skeptical, but its gonna be a big enough dent in the bank account for something that may not even be wrong. Its in my nature.
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Saving $$$$$.
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Do the Required Service Yourself. Then you will have $$$$$ to spend on other Items of your Choice.
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I believe option C shall be the winner.
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My dealer is pretty good. I trust them. Bike ran smoother after the service. I would've done it myself if I had the time.
Of course it's up to you, but since the service manual says to do it at 600 I did.
Don't have to do it again until 16k, which is pretty good. My old Ninja 250 was every 7500 miles.
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My exhaust valves were also tight at 600 miles. And I did them myself.
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What do you mean you don't know what I use? to heat cycle an engine you simply run it up to operating temp, let it cool and repete a few times. If you don't believe in the 600 mile maintenance then don't do it simple as that.
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I asked the guys at the dealership about break-in riding when I bought the bike. They said, and I quote:
"Oh, just don't ride like a jackass, and bring it in for service at 600 miles."
That's the best way I've ever heard those instructions delivered.
"Oh, just don't ride like a jackass, and bring it in for service at 600 miles."
That's the best way I've ever heard those instructions delivered.
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Load is more importanat than RPM. No wide open throttle, no lugging. Allowing the revs to build slowly in teh lower gears will not hurt the engine per se. Also, vary rpm, no long constant rpm cruizes.
Did any of you find you had to use special tools for the job? Or just standard metric tools? I checked with my dealer, it was even more outrageous..$367 and presumably + tax as well..I was curious and left shocked so no doubt I'll do this myself. Just curious if I need to be mindful of any special tools.
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You need feeler gauges. Ones that are paper thin. They can be either SAE or metric, but if they have metric on them(like mine do), it will make things easier. A torque wrench is a good idea. Other than that, a full ratchet set and other basic tools is what you need. A telescopic magnet will make your life a lot easier. Plan on spending a bit of time figuring stuff out. You may want to get the service manual anyways, since there's not so much info here on the net.
These are the ones I have.
Feeler Gauge - 32 Piece, SAE/Metric
Cheap yet effective. You will either need a shim kit or have a dealership(like mine) that does free shim exchanges. I guess you could buy them too.
These are the ones I have.
Feeler Gauge - 32 Piece, SAE/Metric
Cheap yet effective. You will either need a shim kit or have a dealership(like mine) that does free shim exchanges. I guess you could buy them too.
I'm not worried about tools like that, I have a fair amount of tools, my father is a milwright and has just about every tool you can think of. I was thinking more along the lines of some weird as bolt that requires a special "Honda wrench" but if its just tools of that nature I'll be good to go. Have everything you mentioned and I'll happily save myself..400 bucks!
basically was told the same thingI asked the guys at the dealership about break-in riding when I bought the bike. They said, and I quote:
"Oh, just don't ride like a jackass, and bring it in for service at 600 miles."
That's the best way I've ever heard those instructions delivered.
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Ok awesome! Then you're all set. Try to get the service manual, that will probably help a lot. Ask about a shim exchange program though. That can save you even more money.
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