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The bike I am looking at is abs model? Do the abs help stop better are just prevent locking brakes up? Worth the extra money? And is any extended 4 year warranty worth it?
Cbr 250r tri color
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ABS is exactly what it says... Anti-Lock Braking System.
ABS will, in certain situation, make you take LONGER distances to stop.
If you are a new rider, you will likely find ABS easier to learn, because you just don't worry about it if you need to make a panic stop, you stomp on the rear lever and grab a fist full of front lever and the computer does all the thinking for you.
But, if you know how to brake properly (and honestly, I think everyone should) then you may hate ABS. Both take different techniques, and using the wrong technique on the wrong setup can lead to problems.
I don't buy warranties... but others have differing opinions.
ABS will, in certain situation, make you take LONGER distances to stop.
If you are a new rider, you will likely find ABS easier to learn, because you just don't worry about it if you need to make a panic stop, you stomp on the rear lever and grab a fist full of front lever and the computer does all the thinking for you.
But, if you know how to brake properly (and honestly, I think everyone should) then you may hate ABS. Both take different techniques, and using the wrong technique on the wrong setup can lead to problems.
I don't buy warranties... but others have differing opinions.
The ABS bike is worth more than the $500 extra Honda charges. The ABS modulator alone costs almost $1000 as a spare. Plus you get slightly better front calipers.
If you just want the bike as cheap as possible, skip it. If ABS is something that appeals to you at all, the ABS bike is an incredible value.
If you just want the bike as cheap as possible, skip it. If ABS is something that appeals to you at all, the ABS bike is an incredible value.
I own 2 bikes, have ridden for ages and I got an ABS cbr250r.
The bike is light in the front and much more likely to lock up on hard breaking..
Of course I can stop without it, anyone can, my other bikes is not ABS..
but I've been glad I have it on this light little bike 3 or 4 times already.
not high speed stuff, most times it's been the guy in front suddenly breaking and being on loose gravel..
the bike gets up to skid inducing speeds surprisingly quick
The bike is light in the front and much more likely to lock up on hard breaking..
Of course I can stop without it, anyone can, my other bikes is not ABS..
but I've been glad I have it on this light little bike 3 or 4 times already.
not high speed stuff, most times it's been the guy in front suddenly breaking and being on loose gravel..
the bike gets up to skid inducing speeds surprisingly quick
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I have the ABS tri-colour. The Abs features are as follows.
1)when operating the rear brake you get one third application of front brake.
2)in the situation where a rider error occurs and excessive braking is applied. the system prevents the the wheels locking up and bike skidding. this can increase your braking distance but may also stop you coming off the bike.
Locking up motorcycle tyres under extreme braking can cause the bike to swerve and weave/wobble in an unpredictable fashion. this is hard to control and at this point an ABS system would prove worth its weight in gold. When a wheel locks and you skid the correct action is to take of and reapply brake to stop the skid. The ABS system just does this for you and to the average rider it will do it faster and more efficiently.
There seems to be a large majority of motorcyclists who are against ABS and it is a view point i fail to understand.
The question you really need to ask yourself, is can you afford to pay the extra $$$ for a system which will prevent you locking up IF you make a mistake and grab too much brake?
1)when operating the rear brake you get one third application of front brake.
2)in the situation where a rider error occurs and excessive braking is applied. the system prevents the the wheels locking up and bike skidding. this can increase your braking distance but may also stop you coming off the bike.
Locking up motorcycle tyres under extreme braking can cause the bike to swerve and weave/wobble in an unpredictable fashion. this is hard to control and at this point an ABS system would prove worth its weight in gold. When a wheel locks and you skid the correct action is to take of and reapply brake to stop the skid. The ABS system just does this for you and to the average rider it will do it faster and more efficiently.
There seems to be a large majority of motorcyclists who are against ABS and it is a view point i fail to understand.
The question you really need to ask yourself, is can you afford to pay the extra $$$ for a system which will prevent you locking up IF you make a mistake and grab too much brake?
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Almost all of the time, you won't notice the ABS as it ONLY activates once a wheel would have locked up with normal brakes. It won't make any difference, until you find yourself in an emergency situation, and it could then make the difference between you falling off, or not. In the real world, it is not true that it takes longer to stop with ABS. Even the professional tester who practises hard braking all the time, found the ABS better in this vid, virtually all riders, me included would be able to stop much quicker on an ABS bike in a real, on the road emergency. So I think it's definitely well worth the little extra money. 
Just thought I'd add this vid.
Just thought I'd add this vid.
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If you can afford it, get it. You can certainly learn good braking skills and defensive riding techniques with or without ABS and arguments that you will come to rely on ABS rather than riding skill are basically telling you that you're too stupid to learn.
There are other threads on this site that comment on ABS/non-ABS. In those threads, I think you will find, as I did, that most of the riders with ABS have rarely, if ever, had to use it. The ones that have, however, seem to feel that the ABS kept them upright.
Good riding skill without ABS is better (perhaps) than poor riding skill with ABS, but good skill with ABS is best.
I agree with Wynne's assessment that real world braking distances will be no greater with ABS than without it, but ABS is more likely to keep you upright in the process.
There are other threads on this site that comment on ABS/non-ABS. In those threads, I think you will find, as I did, that most of the riders with ABS have rarely, if ever, had to use it. The ones that have, however, seem to feel that the ABS kept them upright.
Good riding skill without ABS is better (perhaps) than poor riding skill with ABS, but good skill with ABS is best.
I agree with Wynne's assessment that real world braking distances will be no greater with ABS than without it, but ABS is more likely to keep you upright in the process.
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I've noticed that quite a few riders new to motorcycling have a tendency to want to rely on, or have a preference to use the rear brake before the front. I'm always amazed at how many people are not aware of the fact that the rear brake has so little stopping power as compared to the front brake. I think many new riders are more than a little unnerved by the front end "dive" when applying the front brake, especially in a quick stop situation. That said, ABS is very likely the way to go for new riders today. Many of us "old schoolers" learned to ride off road on surfaces with very little grip when it comes to braking, and either learned very quickly to modulate brake application and wheel lock up, or ate a lot of dirt in the process of learning the "art" of brake modulation.
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You need to learn ride properly w/o the abs, but it is a nice feature. I have never had a warranty claim on any of my hondas', in 30 years of riding.
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