CBR250 ABS Switch

15093 Views 15 Replies 11 Participants Last post by cbrrider111, Jun 7, 2017

Honda-biker

Discussion Starter · Mar 4, 2011

Does anybody know if there is an ABS on/off switch to allow us to disable ABS?
Possibly to do stoppies... or other things that require abs to be disabled?

Or would we have to do it manually?

Save

1 - 16 of 16 Posts

To my knowledge their doesn't seem to be a CBR250R ABS Switch to give you that option of turning on/off ABS.

But I'm sure their will be some sort of hack for it once someone feels the need to do some motorcycle stunts =)

Save

250cc

· #3 · Mar 8, 2011

There isn't on officially announced, You may be able to add a switch to the relay yourself, but I've never done so to anything, so it may or may not be possible as it may be an electric ABS unit, where you will be able to allow power or no power to the ABS unit.

Save

TowJam

· #4 · Apr 10, 2011

Would you really want to be doing stoppies with a 37mm fork?

Save

JPC

· #5 · May 16, 2011

Is there a fuse for the abs system that can be easily removed if you want to turn it off?

Save

Luke

· #6 · May 16, 2011 (Edited)

Why pay $500 for it if you're going to turn it off?

If you followed another thread about ABS you already know I'm not a big fan of it. However, the worst idea, at least to me, is to use it sometimes and not others.

ABS requires enough pressure to lock the wheels for it to function properly. Throw that much pressure on the front lever with no ABS (or with it turned off) and you're in for a world of hurt. So now you're saying that you're going to develop two radically different braking styles and automatically (and instantly) remember which one to use in a crisis? The human brain does not work that way: in a crisis we rely on instinct, and the only way to alter instincts is with training. And you can't train for two vastly different responses to the same input and expect any consistency upon application.

I purposefully bought a non-ABS CBR250r. However, if I had somehow wound up with the "A" model, I'd either turn ABS off and leave it off or learn how to make it give me the results I wanted. Mix and match is a bad idea.

BTW, I freely admit that I don't get the whole "stoppies" thing - the fact that it starts with the same two letters as "stupid" doesn't quite strike me as a coincidence. Maybe we should just rename them "stuppies"

Luke

See less See more

Save

may2nd

· #7 · May 16, 2011

LOL!!! Amen Luke!!!

Save

ferrix

· #8 · May 17, 2011

2wheelin said:
But I'm sure their will be some sort of hack for it once someone feels the need to do some motorcycle stunts =)

You need to cut the red wire.
... or was it the green one?

Save

TowJam

· #9 · May 17, 2011

Luke said:
...BTW, I freely admit that I don't get the whole "stoppies" thing - ..."

+1

And keep in mind this isn't a dirt bike. Standing up 360 lbs. of bike plus the weight of the rider is quite a bit to ask of those 37mm forks.

Save

JPC

· #10 · May 17, 2011

Thanks Luke for the input. I was not trying to discuss the philisophical differences between abs or non abs though. Some bikes do have a switch, maybe more dual sport bikes granted. It does seem like something that people on this bike might be interested in having. Good or bad to switch it on or off, I don't know.
I dont really see a good reason to want to turn it off if you got it. Perhaps you might go down a road though someday, full of dirt, or whatever throws abs brakes into a funky mode, and you say darn, wish I could turn this thing off for a bit. I'm just wondering, instead of changing the wiring and adding switches and what not, couldnt you just pull the fuse? I don't know. I don't own one yet. I was just kinda throwin it out there.

Save

madd-trapper

· #11 · May 17, 2011

Why is it that abs isnt good on gravel roads? Mines non abs, just interested to know.

Save

ferrix

· #12 · May 18, 2011

madd-trapper said:
Why is it that abs isnt good on gravel roads? Mines non abs, just interested to know.

On gravel or dirt, there is very little traction between tire and the surface; braking with ABS preventing the wheel from locking up takes a long, long time. Without ABS locked wheel can either break through the surface and find more traction in the layer below, or it can dig into the dirt and build up a little dirt bank in front of it, which makes for pretty effective braking... as long as you can stay upright that is. But sometimes a low speed spill could be preferable to not stopping and driving off the cliff, or smack into a tree for example... So that's the logic behind non-ABS for dirt riding.

Save

TowJam

· #13 · May 18, 2011

ferrix said:
On gravel or dirt, there is very little traction between tire and the surface; braking with ABS preventing the wheel from locking up takes a long, long time. Without ABS locked wheel can either break through the surface and find more traction in the layer below, or it can dig into the dirt and build up a little dirt bank in front of it, which makes for pretty effective braking... as long as you can stay upright that is. But sometimes a low speed spill could be preferable to not stopping and driving off the cliff, or smack into a tree for example... So that's the logic behind non-ABS for dirt riding.

Well said.

And this is why your higher end dual sports (ie. R1200GS, etc. ) have the ability to disable the ABS on the fly by a simple push of a button.

Save

ferrix

· #14 · May 18, 2011

TowJam said:
Well said.

And this is why your higher end dual sports (ie. R1200GS, etc. ) have the ability to disable the ABS on the fly by a simple push of a button.

Absolutely, but key words here are 'higher end' and 'dual sports' - and CBR250 is neither. So while I agree it would be nice for its ABS to be switcheable, I'm not really surprised that it isn't.

Save

Coulisnosaj

· #15 · May 7, 2017

More importantly, you could've picked one up to track and you want it off permanently. Anyone do this successfully?

Save

cbrrider111

· #16 · Jun 7, 2017

TowJam said:
Would you really want to be doing stoppies with a 37mm fork?

Why can't you do a stoppie with ABS? I wouldn't have thought you'd need to skid the front wheel to lift the back... (FYI I've never attempted a stoppie)

Save

1 - 16 of 16 Posts

This is an older thread, you may not receive a response, and could be reviving an old thread. Please consider creating a new thread.

Top Contributors this Month