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I can't believe the rider noticed the car coming over and took his hand off the bar just in the nick of time.

I love some of the comments like: "250s are too slow that's why I need a 600".

Yep, would have totally helped in that situation...not.
I do think he was going too slow. When I ride on multi-lane highways (which I avoid most of the time) I usually try to be moving faster than the traffic so that I'm in control of lane positioning and distances.
 

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I do think he was going too slow. When I ride on multi-lane highways (which I avoid most of the time) I usually try to be moving faster than the traffic so that I'm in control of lane positioning and distances.
He was going with the traffic. It looked like a fairly congested area with rather slow moving traffic so unless he starts lane splitting (which is illegal in most places of the world anyway) he had nowhere to go faster anyway.

Besides it seemed he got caught by surprise as he didn't even try to move further left to give the BMW more space. So even a 1000 wouldn't have helped there.
 

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i also prefer to find a car at my speed
then follow it, not too close, not center lane,
letting it cut thru air resistance somewhat
while using it as a partial shield..

i trail busses thru roundabouts etc, for same reasons,
drivers see/avoid driving into busses, while they seem
willing to take my roadspace and me..

they tend to be trained to be aware of
the roadside/end of road, so being closer to
roadsides helps enter their attention,
as road space they tend to avoid..

of course there are nutcases and others
in dreamland or even enjoying the power
of muscling in on bikes, scoots etc..
thus being relaxed but aware of approaching
/nearby cars is self evidently necessary..
 

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This is absolutely terrifying. Exactly the reason I try to avoid larger highways if at all possible. Even at slower speeds though drivers really neglect bikers. I've had people pull out and almost T-bone me, had I not been paying attention. Usually, if there is a red light that we get stopped at I turn around and try to signal to the person that they almost ran into me, if they hadn't noticed, and they act like they were the ones in the right despite the fact that I had the right-of-way. It's absolutely ridiculous.

I once read a study on how when people are in their cars, they view all other vehicles as non-human (basically, they forget that there are people behind each and every other vehicle on the road). I would imagine that would be harder to attain with cyclists, as you can actually see the human form. Perhaps it is not this phenomenon occurring in the context of bikes, but rather the fact that people feel safe in their steel cocoons and are willing to be pushy to get where they're going faster. Who knows...

Moral of the story I would say is stay alert always.
 

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I once read a study on how when people are in their cars, they view all other vehicles as non-human (basically, they forget that there are people behind each and every other vehicle on the road). I would imagine that would be harder to attain with cyclists, as you can actually see the human form. Perhaps it is not this phenomenon occurring in the context of bikes, but rather the fact that people feel safe in their steel cocoons and are willing to be pushy to get where they're going faster. Who knows...

Moral of the story I would say is stay alert always.
I always know there's someone behind the wheel of every car on the road; and they're all idiots trying to kill me. :frown2:
 

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I noticed that I got cut off far more when I was riding without a high viz vest. I've been wearing one constantly while riding for about two years now and the number of incidents like has been significantly lower.

BTW highways are much safer for us than normal roads. That's because there are no intersections and everybody is going into the same direction, eliminating our number 1 enemy: The left turning car at an intersection.
 

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I am a big proponent of wearing hi-viz gear. I think it really helps other vehicles to be aware of your presence and approach.
 

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agree with schroeder on intersections as hotspots
for serious smashes.. motorcycle crash video
compilations show this raw reality..

also todays stats for drivers sleeping at the wheel,
nodding off, sleep apnea, micro-sleeps, drowsy
driving [incl drug and alcohol effected]
are staggering..

especially on long monotonous
stretches of road or highway..

forewarned is forearmed tho..
we are different, in many ways..
riders rarely fall asleep while riding,
and it isnt, fair that the onus falls
on us, to ride defensively..

but its a price we must pay,,
along with the benefits of this
special single track vehicle..
 

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I noticed that I got cut off far more when I was riding without a high viz vest. I've been wearing one constantly while riding for about two years now and the number of incidents like has been significantly lower.
Looks like I should invest in some high visibility gear then. It makes sense that it would decrease the number of incidents, as in many of the close calls I've experienced, it's as if the driver has just looked straight through me without even noticing me. I would say this is largely in part due to the high number of distractions drivers face/subject themselves to.

BTW highways are much safer for us than normal roads. That's because there are no intersections and everybody is going into the same direction, eliminating our number 1 enemy: The left turning car at an intersection.
That makes great sense as well. It's just a little more intimidating dealing with danger at 60+ mph speeds; you have less room for error.
 

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Yikes! What was the driver thinking?

The only thing I would say the rider should have done is possibly noticed an erratic driver coming in his mirror or noticed a car unusually close (also in the mirror) as it was closing on him quickly.

That, and making a quick maneuver to the left of his lane to get more room. No matter who's fault, your absolute first priority needs to be getting yourself out of the way.
 

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luke - 'less room for error' also means awareness of
your road environment.. almost invariably crashes
with heavy braking could have been avoided or
minimised by - extra braking distances -

also being ready.. 'ready' means about to move,
as opposed to having brain in auto pilot..
this what car drivers often do on long stretches..
'highway hypnosis' is an example of driving
automatically, but in a state where information
may not have access to brain areas responsible for
fast reactive responses..
sitting or slumping in a car seat, immobile,
sound dampened, no wind, that white line..

riders are not 'trapped' in one position however,,
and may easily do gently movements to almost
all body parts while riding..
even with gear and helmets there is wind,
wind and other external sounds..
instead of a leaden leg resting on the accelerator
we have our right hand attached to wrist then
elbow then shoulder joints,, all with specific
brain areas and all active, especially as we
reduce or increase speeds..

another reason for not 'becoming a car'
amongst cars,, rather remaining an independent
single track vehicle and rider, regardless..
those cars can bump into each other with no
or little effect,, which could take us down or out..

constantly scan mirrors, briefly.. it becomes almost
peripheral vision to notice a change behind,
a car coming up that wasnt there last glance..
this is good for your eye muscles and vision,
not something to be avoided..

think of riding with no brakes, in the wet..
ie, as if your brakes have failed..
thus use engine braking, only accelerating
enough to do the job, and leaving enough room
should you need to slow down or stop..
[very slow riding practice, feet on pegs,
is excellent,, including for distancing etc,
encouraging you to be aware of up ahead,
thus responding by slowing etc as needed]

we are, vulnerable..
but we do have specific advantages..
especially our size and minimal road space
requirements, together with mobility
within road spaces - choosing where
we want to ride.. consider this..
thus take advantage of our advantages..

it can be an interesting challenge,,
just riding safely, including slowly..
 

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Too bad such aggressive driving is seldom rewarded with a ticket as this guy is weaving through traffic across three lanes.
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Nothing else you can really do as a rider in that situation. Stick reflective and high-vis tape all over your helmet and get a vest. The helmet is proven in studies to be the most effective key to prospicuity.
 

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hi-vis of course helps the visual centers of brains..

the only flaw being in assuming that all drivers
will avoid us if they see us...

which is just not so..
 
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