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so i removed the bank/angle sensor and that thing sounds like it has a bb inside of it ... didn't think it made that much of a diffrence , but the bike is running a lot smoother ..... this sensor sits inside the upper cowl around the headlights ...... don't get me wrong , im not saying you should remove the sensor but this post might make you ride more confident ..... but you should always safety check your motorcycle .....and check your motor mounts....just in case ;)
 

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guess these cbr250 posts are no longer useful information on this site

they should change the name of this site ....is misleading :confused:





^ at least some people appreciates me taking the time to try to put some closure on this rattle issue .....

whatever ...who cares ... hope that rattle haunts you haters when you ride
 

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No lack of appreciation here SS. My ride doesn't rattle so......:confused::cool:
 

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nice find SS!
thanks sac ... know you boys out there in the mc41's motherland would find this post useful ....(think they left most of the rattlers in Thailand)


speaking of .... seen my boy Redline out there !?

if you do , tell him some of us actually miss his posts on this site ..
...(just not the pictures of his lovers) ;):D:D


BTW- your website is looking real clean there brah
think i might have to order something :cool:
 

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I appreciate the info. your find seems to be the most reasonable answer so far. to tell you the truth i'm too busy riding my bike to care about a rattle. this is one of the more useful posts i've seen in a month or so. otherwise it's just which cosmetic upgrade is best and slavery.
 

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I'm sure RL is lurking around :) He did PM me to confirm that he didn't post any "cp" which I believe. Thanks for the compliment on the site. We're very excited to get it going. My bike had the rattle and it was annoying.
didn't believe myself that he was posting "cp" .... trannies to piss people off , whatever , he even got me on a few scrolls with those .... but "cp" !? , that's the line right there .....glad it was a false accusations (probably to further discredit him)


WHAT'S UP RED !!?? :cool:
 

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I appreciate the info. your find seems to be the most reasonable answer so far. to tell you the truth i'm too busy riding my bike to care about a rattle. this is one of the more useful posts i've seen in a month or so. otherwise it's just which cosmetic upgrade is best and slavery.
thanks Jme250RA :cool:

mine made a rattle but it was annoying to wonder if something was really wrong .. i too was to busy riding to let it affect me



now that i removed the sensor (for personal reasons) , it does sound like the rattle is gone


i heard of people injecting silicone or something in the sensor to override it but i took mine completely off
 

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mate, based on your interesting feedback i googled it and found many
others have had similar experiences on various different bikes..
consensus seems to be that securing it with rubber seems to help,
but best result apparently is to wrap it in insulating foam first
then secure it well using rubber etc..
also raised is adding oil inside the sensor itself to allow the ball
to move [thus sense tilt etc] but to not make the typical 'rattle'..

choices of response interesting, large goldwing owners tend to
want to keep the sensor, but attempt to stop its noise,
whereas 600rr owners want to switch it off variously,
to avoid it sensing deep lean angles and switching off
while mid corner [!] esp those racing their 600rr..

going by the terminology used my others of 'rattling' seems
you may have discovered the 'upper fairing rattle' :)
 

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I wonder if this may also be causing the engine shut off problem on heavy braking. Usually those type of devices have some sort of damping fluid in them.
 

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I was doing some work on my offset plates when I came across another rattle.

the washer on the back of the rear brake pivot rattles between the brake lever and the circlip.
 

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I was doing some work on my offset plates when I came across another rattle.

the washer on the back of the rear brake pivot rattles between the brake lever and the circlip.
:eek: , that's what i said on the original rattle thread back in the day !! :cool:

then Aufiit was like: "some say this , some say that , how bout y'all just ride the dam thing" ...or something along those lines ....and he was right !!

but after installing sato rearsets , still heard the faint rattle from the front upper , that's when i gave up and took his advise....until now.

good find Jme .... now i know that one wasn't just me

after that we agree that single cylinder bikes vibrate more than other motors ...

... and that safety checks for this model are a must ......on a weekly basis :)
 

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I'm pretty sure Goldwing bank angle sensors do (or at least did) have damping fluid inside. In fact, a while back, Goldwings were recalled because the damping fluid would weap or even evaporate out of them through porous case, and cause the bike to stall out over bumps. That's why I was midly surprised when I had the front apart to find the angle sensor sounded to have no oil in it. Maybe to keep the price under $4000 and with the price of oil so high, Honda decided to not put oil in it. :D
 

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I like how we're all casually glancing over this thread like it's passe' when it's probably the most debated topic with this bike to date. This should be a sticky for all the new members that sign up just to investigate this issue. It's possibly more common than exhaust threads. ;)
 

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turbo - remember reading about that recall after street sniper raised
the tilt sensor as a 'rattler' here,, apparently the sensor case
was porous enough to allow the oil to seap/soak into it..
[would have thought honda would be onto that]

also some have tried adding oil to sensors without oil,
including adding 'thicker' oil, to reduce movement
of the ball which moves in response to tilting
[and may 'rattle' around due to engine vibration]..
 

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after riding the bike today ... she's rattle free !!

when the sensor was in , i could pay with the RPM to hear this faint rattle , but now that i try it...no rattle. !!

she sounds like a little thumper without the "something is loose" noise

can't stress how much better she rides but im still going to try neutralize the sensor with silicone to plug it back in so the engine light clears off
 

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sniper - on another forum possibly 600rr, they also went into this same
tilt sensor incl how to neutralize it variously, without disturbing other
electronics etc.. various methods discussed and explained there..

perhaps google 'tilt sensor' [plus '600rr'] for heaps of responses..
 

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I understand the opinion that this is a single cylinder, they're supposed to rattle like crazy, just ride it and shut up blah, blah, blah.........

So that's what I usually do especially when riding to work or on a long ride because I wear earplugs and I don't hear it anyway. However, sometimes I enjoy riding around town at slower speeds without earplugs and I like to hear the mechanical music of the engine. It's one of the reasons I bought a motorcycle - to listen to the wonderful Honda soundtrack. In this case the 5500 rpm rattle is like a speaker that buzzes at certain frequencies - it ruins the experience just a little, not much, but a little.

I have fixed the headlight-fairing buzz and I added rubber washers under the foot pegs. So I guess I will also investigate this sensor as well if it might eliminate this on my bike.

But for now, keep the thread alive!! Wooo hoooo
 
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