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Hey folks, I've seen a lot of curiosity about how the CBR250R compares to bikes in the super-sport class. Tell ya what, a buddy of mine and I will make a video series on comparing the CBR250R and a GSX-R1000. Right out the gate, I can tell you the main difference is the CBR250R is a sport-standard made for commuting, and the GSX-R is a super-sport track-ready bike, but it'll help to see the differences.

What topics do you guys want us to cover? We'll post the videos on YouTube and put them on here.
 

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I would never want to watch a video comparing these 2 bikes. lol
lets compare a ford escort to a corvette.. I mean why not they are both cars right?
 

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How about a steel cable tug of war between two alligator pits. Wearing Evil Knievel suits of course.
 

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Haha, I know what you guys are saying. I'm obviously thinking this would be cool for those who bought the CBR250R as their 1st bike, but I'm definitely willing to entertain comedic commentary. What if I put a pretty lady in the video?
 

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In any event, I could just get my girlfriend to give the rundown/narratives on the bikes when they're parked, and get her to record/narrate when filming the actual riding. At the very least, it'll be fun for us and hopefully you guys will think it's pretty nifty too.:)
 

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Having owned and raced a gsxr1000, I can say it will be a very short comparison. The cbr gets really good gas mileage and it super easy to ride and you don't get in a huge amount of trouble without really trying. The gsxr1000 is an incredible machine in the right circumstances, most of which are illegal, and will spit you off if you don't know how to ride it.
 

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Depends if you want to do wheelies on a 1000 as your first bike, crash and break some bones or start out with a 250 and learn to actually ride.
 

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Okay so, I'm getting a lot of snickering from people who are familiar with both, and that's fine since I welcomed the humor I suppose, but this thread's target audience is people new to riding who get told "a 250 won't go over 55mph" and "you'll grow out of it quickly so just start with a 600". I'm not specifically looking to compare the CBR250R to a GSX-R1000, I'm comparing it to, as the title of the thread says, super-sport bikes in general.

To a lot of new riders, the CBR250R is attractive because of its price point and assumed proportionate capabilities for their skill level. The logic tends to go "hey, the CBR comes in 3 sizes, 250, 600, and 1000", but this perception is not accurate. The 250 is a sport-standard economy-bike and has little to do with the 600 and 1000 besides the name and some color options. What's not clear, and you can't tell until you get out on the road, are the differences in comfort, smoothness of the ride, delivery of power, etc.

IMO, the "next step up" would be a middle weight sport-standard like the Kawasaki Ninja 650R, Susuzki SV650S, or Yamaha FZ6. After that you have the heavy-weight bikes that are 1 liter or bigger such as the corresponding Ninja 1000, SV1000S, and FZ1. Honda doesn't make bikes in this family at the moment besides the light-weight CBR250R. The only other bike that's close that I'm aware of (here in the US market) is a full on sport-touring bike.

The main thing is this; get rid of the idea that we're gonna drag-race like a bunch of squids to try and put down the CBR250R. Not even close to that. What I'm mainly doing this for is to show new riders that while the 250 carries the CBR name, from an engineering standpoint it's part of a different family of bikes all together. My buddy who's supplying the GSX-R1000 loves my bike's ergonomics and insanely high fuel economy. I like his bike's smoothness and aerodynamics at high speeds. I don't think either bike, sport-standard or super-sport, is universally "better". "Better" is a subjective term that implies you're basing a decision on specific criteria. Some people's checklist is better met by the CBR250R and vice versa.

Finally, this thread is open to the world and is the leading CBR250R forum on the web. This is a topic many current and potential members are likely interested in. Help the thread. When people see it in a search result and click the link, a lot of us don't want the world to think "wow, that forum sh**s on its own bike pretty hard".
 

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I would watch a video of such a comparison. Girls in bikinis would help, though. :)
 

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If you are going towards comparing their capabilities maybe you can show footage from things like this:


I think people tend to pigeon-hole this bike, even people who own them.
 

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I started on a Buell Blast for 17K miles, then had a Triumph Daytona 675 for 24K miles/5 years.

Performance can't be compared, although I found it just as fun to push a small bike to it's capacity verses not coming close to using a bigger bikes capacity.

I kept details records for both bikes, the Buell I had for 2 years, I did have 2 accidents, one cost $50 and the other cost $1000 (I broke both wheels hitting a hole, but kept the bike upright). The Daytona was never wrecked until it was totaled in the end, reducing the sale value greatly.

The service price for the Daytona averaged $600 without tires and the Buell was around $200.


................Buell.......D675
Miles.........16,985......23,959
MPG............53.39.......37.66
Avg Price......$2.66.......$3.14
Total Fuel...$831.01....$1901.37
Service.....$1470.58....$3485.48
Repairs.....$1071.37.....$472.70
Mods.........$834.73.....$444.21
Total.......$4207.69....$6303.76
Purchase....$3500.00....$6500.00*
Sold........$2650.00....$1600.00
Cost........$5157.69...$11203.76


The buell was purchaed new on sale, the D675 was purchased used with 1000 miles on the bike, in perfect condition with allot of mods already done to it.
 

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The CBR250 is an awesome bike is represents the needs of the real world much better than a supersport. I joined this forum because I was going to buy one for a track bike, but looking for a used one on craigslist landed me a killer deal on a sv650s...

Honestly, the Supersports are too narrowly focused. They're uncomfortable, they're unforgiving, you have to rev them to the moon to get down the road... The 600s are the worst by far, having to launch the bike at 6000rpm, sitting in traffic bent over like a german porno, the underseat exhaust slowly roasting your chestnuts. They're terrible streetbikes. Riding them for more than a few minutes in a non-race environment is painful.

The SV650S is a great bike for sub-6 footers. I'm 6'1" and the geometry is too cramped for me, but I'm good for the track on it. The CBR250R is actually more comfortable for me. Otherwise, I can't recommend the SV highly enough. Unfortunately it got discontinued. My daily driver is a 650 V-strom, same motor bigger chassis... The best bike I've ever owned.

The CBR250R is a pretty amazing bike. It does double duty as an amazing bike to learn on, and a great real-world bike that does everything right.
 

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The 600s are the worst by far, having to launch the bike at 6000rpm, sitting in traffic bent over like a german porno, the underseat exhaust slowly roasting your chestnuts. They're terrible streetbikes. Riding them for more than a few minutes in a non-race environment is painful.
I thought that too when I was thinking about getting rid of my D675, then the dealer gave me 2 cruisers to ride. I rode one home while they serviced my bike, 150 miles each way. Got to be the worst 300 miles I ever spent on a bike :D

Yes, they are higher revving too, but most bikes are. My D675 didn't NEED to be doing 10K rpm, but anywhere from 4K to 8K was the normal range.

I won't miss the roasted chestnuts :D
 

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Sport bike standard commuting or super sport bike. All the same. The cbr is in the sport bike class. Just ask my insurance agent about that. An ask all the people who race the CBR.
Super sport just means TOO much speed and power for the street.
Probably 99% of bikes are used as commuters therfore making the even the SUPER SPORTBIKE a commuter bike.
 

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The D675 is not typical of sportbikes when it comes to the motor... but it does have the "ass up" riding position that makes us taller folk wince. I test rode one and cut the ride short because of it.

Back to the GSXR, its hard to argue with the power if you can keep them on the boil...

 
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