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Hi Guys and Gals:

I don't run this forum (not even a mod), but I would like to point out a few things that will make or break a forum. Just as obviously, I'm nobody's mom, so if you choose to ignore this thread that is your right as well.


  • Civility: people on here will disagree. It's cool to disagree - heck, if everyone agreed about everything we wouldn't even bother getting on the Internet because you'd already know what was there. However, it's pointless to trash someone because you disagree with them. First and foremost, arguing on the Internet is like playing Russian Roulette - even if you win, you're still stupid. Forums where this is the norm eventually get to the point where every topic degenerates into "F*** YOU", "NO, F*** YOU".
  • Profanity: I hang out with Firefighters a lot, and the profanity flows - I remember a NY firefighter using the F-word four times in one sentence, each time as a different part of speech. However, other than shock effect profanity really doesn't accomplish much, and tends to make people dismiss your arguments.
  • Nudity/Porn: Seen this a couple of times in the forum already. Yes, I'm a guy, and yes, I like women - but I also know there's a number of ladies on here of various ages who come here to learn about and enjoy the motorcycles. They most likely don't appreciate it. Mods, if you choose to allow nudity on the site, I would recommend that you restrict it to a specific forum so that people who are interested in it will know exactly where to go, and vice-versa.
Of course, all this is up to the mods, but I think this is a neat forum they have put together - and I have observed how quickly sites can go dormant as outsiders take a look, write it off as another one of "those" sites, and move on. I'd hate to see that happen here.

As always, just my opinion...

Luke
 

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Hi Guys and Gals:

I don't run this forum (not even a mod), but I would like to point out a few things that will make or break a forum. Just as obviously, I'm nobody's mom, so if you choose to ignore this thread that is your right as well.


  • Civility: people on here will disagree. It's cool to disagree - heck, if everyone agreed about everything we wouldn't even bother getting on the Internet because you'd already know what was there. However, it's pointless to trash someone because you disagree with them. First and foremost, arguing on the Internet is like playing Russian Roulette - even if you win, you're still stupid. Forums where this is the norm eventually get to the point where every topic degenerates into "F*** YOU", "NO, F*** YOU".
  • Profanity: I hang out with Firefighters a lot, and the profanity flows - I remember a NY firefighter using the F-word four times in one sentence, each time as a different part of speech. However, other than shock effect profanity really doesn't accomplish much, and tends to make people dismiss your arguments.
  • Nudity/Porn: Seen this a couple of times in the forum already. Yes, I'm a guy, and yes, I like women - but I also know there's a number of ladies on here of various ages who come here to learn about and enjoy the motorcycles. They most likely don't appreciate it. Mods, if you choose to allow nudity on the site, I would recommend that you restrict it to a specific forum so that people who are interested in it will know exactly where to go, and vice-versa.
Of course, all this is up to the mods, but I think this is a neat forum they have put together - and I have observed how quickly sites can go dormant as outsiders take a look, write it off as another one of "those" sites, and move on. I'd hate to see that happen here.

As always, just my opinion...

Luke
Thanks for posting this Luke. Well said.

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Hi Guys and Gals:

I don't run this forum (not even a mod), but I would like to point out a few things that will make or break a forum. Just as obviously, I'm nobody's mom, so if you choose to ignore this thread that is your right as well.


  • Civility: people on here will disagree. It's cool to disagree - heck, if everyone agreed about everything we wouldn't even bother getting on the Internet because you'd already know what was there. However, it's pointless to trash someone because you disagree with them. First and foremost, arguing on the Internet is like playing Russian Roulette - even if you win, you're still stupid. Forums where this is the norm eventually get to the point where every topic degenerates into "F*** YOU", "NO, F*** YOU".
  • Profanity: I hang out with Firefighters a lot, and the profanity flows - I remember a NY firefighter using the F-word four times in one sentence, each time as a different part of speech. However, other than shock effect profanity really doesn't accomplish much, and tends to make people dismiss your arguments.
  • Nudity/Porn: Seen this a couple of times in the forum already. Yes, I'm a guy, and yes, I like women - but I also know there's a number of ladies on here of various ages who come here to learn about and enjoy the motorcycles. They most likely don't appreciate it. Mods, if you choose to allow nudity on the site, I would recommend that you restrict it to a specific forum so that people who are interested in it will know exactly where to go, and vice-versa.
Of course, all this is up to the mods, but I think this is a neat forum they have put together - and I have observed how quickly sites can go dormant as outsiders take a look, write it off as another one of "those" sites, and move on. I'd hate to see that happen here.

As always, just my opinion...

Luke
i AGREE with Luke.

peace and ride safe.
 

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Thanks Luke. I'm close to deleting the site myself. I'm not going to give the mods much more time to take some needed action. To bad, it could be a great place to share information.
 

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MODERATOR FAIL: if they want to save what has already been made here, then they better get busy.

Don't allow porn, clean up the language and kick off the trolls.

There can always be another place, perhaps this one is not going to make it. I suspect that because they don't present a clear mission statement which seeks to preserve the integrity of the sharing environment, combined with an apparent lack of will to oversee the forum properly, they will ensure it's demise.:(
 

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Well said Luke. Maybe the Torontans at AutoForums.com will perk up their ears and make some tweaks to the site.


 

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Thanks Luke for having the inner respect and strength to post what i am sure alot of us are feeling. I joined this forum, the first ever, to share the excitement of owning a new model of cbr with fellow riders. There is always something new to learn no matter what the experience level. I have enjoyed reading the posts, picked up some new and interesting information and smiled at the excitement we all have with owning this new bike. Lately however, I have noticed some foul language and naked pics that I wonder what has to do with what this forum is all about. I don't consider myself a prude and certainly am not in any way dictating how people should conduct themselves. Honestly I am starting to become disappointed and not as excited to log onto this form. We all want to joke around and share a laugh:D Please let this not be at the expense of others. Let's get back to the thrill of riding, posting pics of our bikes, and sharing our riding adventures. ;) Keep the shiney side up
 

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I joined this forum for several reasons: none of them had anything to do with how high I can lift my leg or how manly I am or am not. I have to admit that I'm actually surprised that some of the (especially newer) members on here are here at all - I mean, the CBR250 is not really an e-penis Internet-tough-guy kind of bike. If you look in other motorcycle forums, those attitudes tie to (usually virtual) CBR1000RR (the Repsol edition, no less) or Suzuki Hayabusas.

That having been said, I think I'm like most of the early members of CBR250.net - I enjoy(ed?) the discussions and the info, and even the debates (Kim is pro-ABS, I'm not). However, I don't own, manage, or profit from this site, so my allegiance to it is conditional. When/if the people who are more interested in winning Internet arguments become the majority, I'll assist in that by reducing the minority. As with most other things in life, time and the market will dictate the eventual outcome.

When it gets too frustrating, I can always go for a long ride.....

Luke
 

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i actually can't believe how fast these forums have begun to get a little ridiculous. I think i'm still in the majority of reasonable riders, who come here to get info, and discuss and debate our new, or new to us, cbr250r's. It would be sad if these forums got so out of control because of a few bad eggs. But i'm with luke, i'd much rather go for a nice long ride on my bike that i enjoy so much for what it is, than to argue with trolls and children. Ride safe, and keep the shiny side up!
 

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Luke.... I DO agree with you... totaly on your side and of like-mind. What started out as fun is now "not so much". To the mods out there......do your job please.
 

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Well said Luke... Ive been a member of this forum for quite some time and have been working, riding, in real life away from internet land and I logged on the forum last night and noticed right off there was a new tone to some of the threads and replys to them..Im no angel but i get on this site to read about the bike and the joy most of us get out of riding it..there can be some very informitive threads about the bike, or just hearing about the joy other riders get out of the bike is cool..There is a time and a place for everything...weather its cursing, nude pics, troll fetishes, whatever, but this site aint it..Ride safe..Dont let the few ruin it for the wany..
 

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Thank you to everyone, I am grateful for the opportunity to talk with so many cbr250 riders and it really was nice, for a while.

I saw yahoo. has a user group but I don't think that it is moderated. A moderated forum there is probably the least expensive, long run solution for making an information forum.

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I've enjoyed reading through the many interesting topics on this forum and found it rewarding to witness the excitement and discovery of riding that many new riders shared on this forum. I hope that some found my posts useful and interesting as well. However, a forum that is not moderated is vulnerable to the kinds of abuse that is now evident on this forum. I will not be posting on this forum again.

Take care and continue to ride safe.

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I communicated with the administrator of this forum and he said he is going to get a crew together to straighten things out. He said the site grew so fast it was a little neglected.

Quote: "If you see something hit the report post button and I will have a look at it!"

He said he will give trolls the attention they deserve.
So if anyone has issues with what your seeing you know what to do. :)

Hopefully we can get back on track here. :eek:
 

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I agree! And really I don't blame the people that want to leave! This site was very informative and enjoyable up until recently. I guess cbr.com members were bored with their site and needed other forms of entertainment elsewhere! It's just too bad that they had to ruin this site. I myself will not leave the forums, but in terms of posting or replying, that may not happen for a while. At least until it gets under control!

Peace!
 

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Dave 101....will do. I voiced concern to the admin guys as well. It really is true, takes only a few to ruin a good time for others.
 
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