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That's a big number. I wonder how they got it. There are much fewer ABS bikes on the road. It would have to be figured on deaths per miles driven for each model. The number for non fatal accidents would be even several times higher. I'm sure that most single bike low side crashes from grabbing too much front brake are not fatal.A recent Insurance Institute for Highway Safety (IIHS) study has shown that motorcycles equipped with antilock brakes are 37 percent less likely to be involved in a fatal crash than models without ABS." - Consumer Reports
Yeah that's a big number to swallow for you non-absers.That's a big number. I wonder how they got it. There are much fewer ABS bikes on the road. It would have to be figured on deaths per miles driven for each model. The number for non fatal accidents would be even several times higher. I'm sure that most single bike low side crashes from grabbing too much front brake are not fatal.
Most of the reduction in accident claims for ABS bikes occurs within the first few months of purchase. After that, there's a significant but less dramatic effect.That's a big number. I wonder how they got it. There are much fewer ABS bikes on the road. It would have to be figured on deaths per miles driven for each model. The number for non fatal accidents would be even several times higher. I'm sure that most single bike low side crashes from grabbing too much front brake are not fatal.
Until recently ABS has only been available as a much greater cost option on some fairly fancy machinery. The buyers would have been mainly well heeled, more experienced, safety conscious types. The sample would be quite skewed. I reckon says more about the riders than the technology It is more useful for assessing insurance risk, than as a study of how much safer it makes an inherently dangerous vehicle.That's a big number. I wonder how they got it. There are much fewer ABS bikes on the road. It would have to be figured on deaths per miles driven for each model. The number for non fatal accidents would be even several times higher. I'm sure that most single bike low side crashes from grabbing too much front brake are not fatal.
Actuaries don't do anecdotes.Until recently ABS has only been available as a much greater cost option on some fairly fancy machinery. The buyers would have been mainly well heeled, more experienced, safety conscious types. The sample would be quite skewed. I reckon says more about the riders than the technology It is more useful for assessing insurance risk, than as a study of how much safer it makes an inherently dangerous vehicle.
Actuaries use statistics to assess risk groups, not to do science.Actuaries don't do anecdotes.
Even if they're off by 10%, if every motorcycle on the road had ABS, we'd save 1200 lives a year and countless injury accidents.
I did the BRC2 course this weekend and got to light up the ABS quite a bit. It's goddamn confidence-inspiring.
They aren't using the raw number of crashes, they're comparing crash rates as a percentage of how many bikes have ABS. Someone in IIHS is undoubtedly breaking it down further by age, experience, risk factors, displacement, etc. and they're still strongly recommending it be made mandatory across the board.As to the statistics, ABS bikes aren't as common as non-ABS bikes, so of course ABS-bike crashes make up a smaller percentage of crashes.
Of course you're going to need to be upright to be able to perform a panic stop. No amount of gadgetry will overcome the limited dynamics of a two-wheeled vehicle. But it's one less thing to screw up in a snap-SHTF moment. Just squeeze and stomp that bastard as hard as you can. People had the same reservations when automobile ABS was new.I am glad that your confidence has been inspired by ABS. Just don't go getting over confident about its ability to save your arse..... In the end it comes down to your own skills and common sense.
That's funny because it's not true.What I don't get is that they're writing an article about the ABS on the CBR and the first picture they have is of the Tri-Color model... Which doesn't have ABS haha.
The first sentence is false. The second sentence is obvious. The third sentence is false.... I remain unconvinced that it is a major advance in safety on two wheels. It is not a substitute for learning proper riding skills, and road craft. On a motorcycle, safety is in the hands and head of the rider, not the machine.
NADA guides lists the average retail of a non-ABS CBR250R as $200 less than ABS, so $300-$400 of that investment erased in one year. A few more years and the difference will be negligible.Everyone is talking about the safety of ABS on the CBR but don't forget resale value.
Actually, in most real world riding situations, a non ABS CBR250R can and will be able to stop in a shorter distance than the ABS equipped bike, in the hands of an experienced rider. ABS will actually prevent maximum braking, which is achieved when braking just short of locking up. Braking distances are increased with ABS. Honda even states this in the O/M, page 11. That said, certainly ABS is a great feature for new riders. It would also have an advantage on wet roads, to prevent wheel lock up.In most real road situations, you're going to be able to stop quicker on the ABS bike.
This is a misconception. On any ABS equipped vehicle (plane, car, bike), the emergency stopping procedure is to firmly apply the brakes and let the technology do its job, NOT prevent the technology from working. Practice it regularly and get used to the ABS doing its job.If you are determined to learn how to properly stop your motorcycle and willing to practice, you should never hear/feel the ABS engage.