[Cytochromec]

I was told they were out there but I met one for the first time (have ridden by them before but never chatted). A fellow classmate in graduate school knows I ride so he asks me what. I tell him once, and in a full, a Honda CBR250R, been riding about a year. No bullshit, no "CBR" and wait for him to ask the cc, just the answer. He looks at me like, "your not the cool biker I thought you were" type of look. I ask about him and he says hes been riding for 5 years and has a 2003 600cc ninja. We talk a little more and I go, how many miles have you put on it...2000. 2000 miles in ~5 years vs my 10,000 miles in 10 months. He goes do you do track? I say not yet, but I ride canyons a lot. I go do you know how to ride in canyons? He says no he doesnt do that. So I ask, how strong is the stigma of cc that a 600cc guy who rides 30miles/month with no turning skills looks down on a 250cc that rides 1000miles/month with thousands of miles canyon experience?

I offered that we should ride together, but he seems disinterested. He wouldnt have been the first 600cc Im faster than with my 250cc, I tell you what.

 

[Top]

lol he won't be the last one slower then you on the canyons.

On sunday at cooks corner, i was looking at Randy's bike and a salesman saw me looking at it and tried to diss the 250.

flat out asked him if he'd ever rode a CBR250 before, people don't seem the realise that this isn't 2004's Honda rebel

 

[may2nd]

i believe theres a quote that goes something like this..."dont be so humble..you are not that great." 5 years? 2000 miles? nuff said..

 

[Conundrum]

To me, someone loses their 'cool' status if they don't ride the bike they bought. It doesn't matter how many CC's you have under the gastank, if you've barely put any miles/km on the bike (and can pretty much only ride in a straight line, to the nearest Starbucks/poser meet lol).

4,000km in about 4 months (would ride more if I could), and about half or more of that is in the twisties.

 

[Spudandretti]

I have had my share of bikes, very big ones. I sold them all for one reason or another, and for a change I bought one of these. I love the little monster and that's all that matters to me.

 

[fastCBR]

Well if he put 2000 track miles in 5 years that's pretty impressive. Even if he's just tooling around on the highway everyone uses their bikes for different reasons. Some guys just like to go fast in a straight line in a group. Not my thing but who am I to judge?

Sounds to me like you were being a bit self conscious about being judged and then turned around and judged him? Nothing he said really seemed to imply he was hating on you or your bike.

 

[Spudandretti]

Sounds to me like you were being a bit self conscious about being judged

 

[Cytochromec]

Well if he put 2000 track miles in 5 years that's pretty impressive. Even if he's just tooling around on the highway everyone uses their bikes for different reasons. Some guys just like to go fast in a straight line in a group. Not my thing but who am I to judge?

Sounds to me like you were being a bit self conscious about being judged and then turned around and judged him? Nothing he said really seemed to imply he was hating on you or your bike.

Never said he hated, and no those werent 2000 track miles. Dont think so outside the box that you fabricate an entirely different story. His reaction was what I said it was, "your not cool cause you ride a 250."

His Judgement: Im not cool cause I ride a 250
Fact: Doesnt matter what I ride.

My judgement: He cant ride for $hit
Fact: He cant ride for $hit.

Note the distinction between a fair judgement and an unfair one.

EDIT: And no, it doesnt matter if he is a good rider or a terrible one...unless he challenges someone. If I am the worst swordsman in the word, it wont matter. But if I take a 2-handed claymore and call the rapier wielder a uCnt, then I is gonna get poked for sure.

 

[FastAndy]

Who cares? Your classmate is a tool. Life goes on.

 

[Cytochromec]

The whole point of the topic was to support one of the closing sentences "how strong is the stigma of cc..." Still stronger than you might think. That is all.

 

[Rusty Shackleford]

Because people don't understand what skill is... which riding fast in a straight line takes none of. It's about having the right tool for the job. In twisty public roads, a 250 is a blast. A lot of displacement snobs use that number stamped on the bike to decide whose nuts hang lower. Mighty squidly way of looking at it if you ask me.

 

[MotoMike]

2000 miles in 5 years doesn't amount to jack sh!t for riding experience. Based on what you said about this guy, grad student, inflated sense of self importance, 600 cc SS bike... yeah, I've seen the type. I'm guessing 23, maybe 24 years old?... 'nuff said.

 

[mstree09]

Gee, only 2000 in 5 years. I just did my first 2000 miles of my life in a month and half. Unfortunately, not many twisties in my part of the world. Although, there is a track-instruction program run at a local road course I'd like to get into next summer

 

[pete_falcone]

People in stone houses something something ...

 

[CBR250R ABS]

One word describes this person = POSER
Ignore him and concentrate on what you have control over = YOU
Become the best you can be, do trackdays, ride the canyons every chance you get.
Life is full of muppets, don't let this one be a speed bump to your progress.

 

[MotoMike]

... shouldn't throw glass?

 

[fastCBR]

Never said he hated, and no those werent 2000 track miles. Dont think so outside the box that you fabricate an entirely different story. His reaction was what I said it was, "your not cool cause you ride a 250."

His Judgement: Im not cool cause I ride a 250
Fact: Doesnt matter what I ride.

My judgement: He cant ride for $hit
Fact: He cant ride for $hit.

Note the distinction between a fair judgement and an unfair one.

EDIT: And no, it doesnt matter if he is a good rider or a terrible one...unless he challenges someone. If I am the worst swordsman in the word, it wont matter. But if I take a 2-handed claymore and call the rapier wielder a uCnt, then I is gonna get poked for sure.

Well I can only go off what you said in the story, and it doesn't sound like he actually said anything to put you or your bike down. If that's the case then you are the one who fabricated a whole line of reasoning in the other guy's head based off a single look he may or may not have given you.

Either way, I think you both are taking yourself a little too seriously. I talk with guys all the time who commute to work on their liter bikes and we just exchange "nice bikes" and nods all the time and leave it at that. Then again I don't go around with a chip on my shoulder because I "only" ride a 250.

It seems a few of you guys think you have something to prove just because you ride a 250. You don't have to prove anything to anyone and most of the world is not trying to prove anything to you. The ones that are - are probably the ones you should be ignoring anyway.

Anyway just my two cents. "Ride your own ride"

 

[Spudandretti]

... shouldn't throw glass?

nuf said . That should end the subject.

 

[MotoMike]

In my neck of the woods, the vast majority of guys on 600 cc sportbikes just tool around town on them. A couple weeks back I was in town, getting gas after an afternoon of riding my usual mountain roads, and two young guys on a pair of GSXR's pull up to the pump next me. I asked them where they had been riding. "Oh, just around town". I asked if they ever ride the Ski Basin road. "No, that road is too rough, and has sand and gravel in the corners". Of course both bikes had squared off rear tires. The only piece of riding gear they had were helmets (they were actually wearing them). My point is that very few owners of 600's actually go out of town and really ride them, at least in the area where I live. Squared off tires, and very few miles tell the tale of the poser. Maybe the SS rider demographic is different in other parts of the country?

 

[fastCBR]

I don't consider someone who owns a vehicle he isn't using to the absolute fullest potential a "poser". Very few of us will even push the limit of our tiny 250s. Why put labels on people? There's plenty of people in my neck of the woods who own Corvettes and all they do with them is drive 5 under the speed limit in the slow lane. Some people just like owning nice cars and some people just like owning nice motorcycles. If you commute on your bike chances are your tires will get squared off, especially if you live in a place like Florida or Phoenix.

"Ride your own ride"