Hard to tell with the larger side panels, but it's possible that this Rally version may have a little more fuel capacity than that of the CRF250L model. If not, there is always the possibility of a larger aftermarket tank becoming available at some point. I know there are now larger tanks for the L on the market.And, it still has the same "massive" 2 gallon gas tank?
I don't see this bike as being looked at by many buyers (at least knowledgeable buyers) as a 'touring bike'... this is a Dual Sport/ADV bike that is clearly intended for off road as it's primary use.I wonder how they will handle the then mandatory ABS in Europe from 2016 on. So far I haven't seen such a small bike with one that could be switched on and off like on some bigger models but I really can't imagine that they'll use one that's permanently on like on the CBR.
The bike itself looks sexy but seems to have a very narrow saddle so it might not be that much fun for touring.
While I tend to agree I thought the windshield and "Rally" designation meant for it to be ridden at higher speeds for longer time. That would be pretty much impossible here in Germany without sticking to paved roads but it might be a completely different thing in other parts of the world.I don't see this bike as being looked at by many buyers (at least knowledgeable buyers) as a 'touring bike'... this is a Dual Sport/ADV bike that is clearly intended for off road as it's primary use.
That's a good question... maybe Honda doesn't intend to fit an ABS system on a bike like this, and just not bring it into the EU. After all, Honda has the ABS equipped CRF1000L Africa Twin coming out this spring, and that is the bike that the core ADV riders are waiting and drooling over.I wonder how they will handle the then mandatory ABS in Europe from 2016 on. So far I haven't seen such a small bike with one that could be switched on and off like on some bigger models but I really can't imagine that they'll use one that's permanently on like on the CBR...
You could certainly do that, as there are plenty of pavement oriented tires available in 21" and 18" sizes. Of course then you're compromising the off road capability of the bike in favor of street use.Now I really like that. That thing with some street usable rubber could be an ultra versatile, and incredibly fun, machine for just about anything. Obviously the knobbies would be awesome for going out to find the end of the road, and beyond.
As was stated, the bike shown in the opening post is a concept bike. But I don't think Honda would "dumb down" a production version, at least not much from what we see in these photos, in an effort to make it more street friendly. Underneath all the cool Rally 'kit', DOT knobbies, it's a CRF250L. If someone wants a tamer street friendly D/S bike to say commute with, that bike is available at Honda dealers right now in the CRF250L.It looks to me like the bike in the pictures is a pre-production prototype on show and deliberately fitted with serious kit to be eye-catching and gauge interest. I'd expect the version that hits the streets to have tamer tyres, longer rear mudguard, maybe ABS and cheaper to produce silencers.
Yeah, I doubt that's likely to happen. One reason... because the CRF450R & X models are full on competition bikes, and as such have no factory warranty. So while it sounds like it would be an awesome Dual Sport bike, a CRF450X with street legal lighting, etc., would be tough for Honda to sell with a warranty... those high maintenance 450 motors would not hold up very well to constant high RPM use like you'd have running down a freeway at 80 MPH for hours on end.I suppose it would be too much to ask for a CRF450 version?
"Serious off road use" is a relative term... if you mean actual off road competition, such as Baja 1000 desert racing, of course that's not what this CRF250 Rally would be intended for.I don't think Honda would intend that bike for serious off road use. If it's CRF250L based and fitted with indicators as in the pictures I'd expect Honda to spec it with a competitive price point and volume sales in mind i,e, as a styling exercise primarily for road use like they have done with the CB500X.
It does look a particularly attractive styling exercise though and if Honda can keep the price within 10-15% more than the CRF250L I think they'll sell plenty.
Of course time will tell which of us is right.
John, you didn't derail the thread... to the contrary, your post illustrates the idea and intended use of Dual Sport motorcycles.... and, (b) bikes suitable for use on trails and poorly maintained dirt roads, but not meant to be raced.
The "new" Honda CRF250 Rally is one of the latter group...
... Sorry for derailing this thread a small bit, but, those old enduros were working bikes.
I agree... no doubt many people buy Dual Sports and rarely (if ever) take them off of the paved roads. I see lots of Dual Sport bikes in my area, mostly being ridden in town. Ironically, I never encounter any of these local D/S bikes out on the trails in the S.F. National Forest where I ride my XR's. But that doesn't mean that the manufacturers design and build these D/S bikes as 'primarily for street use'.... 250s account for a far higher volume of sales, particularly to less experienced riders, and I would wager at least a couple of beers that more CRF250s are bought as short journey run-abouts than are purchased with the intention of being taken off road, despite their obvious suitability for it...
I would extend that observation to experienced riders as well. Over on the forum for my F800GT, there are a number of people complaining that the bike can't do this or that, or that it has this or that deficiency in some aspect of what they are trying to do with it.I'm always amazed at how often new riders buy a particular bike, then complain that it doesn't do this thing or that thing very well. So often, the truth of the matter is that many simply bought the wrong bike for what their expectations are, and what they really want to do with it.