I hope I am not black-balled from the forum for this post, lol, but.....I test drove a non-abs yesterday while waiting for my pre-ordered ABS. I have never riddin a bike with fairing before. Mostly just old hondas and I have test driven some newer Aprilias and Moto Guzzi's. I was a little surprized that it actually did seem a little slow and a little "toy like". Okay, I know that this bike is less than half of the cost of a new shiver or v7 classic. I still think it is an amazing ride and quick for a 250. I don't know exactly what I was expecting??? I think part of it may be due to the fact that I have been reading glowing reviews forever and I had all the anticipation of someone who has had money down on this bike since February. I was on my way to buy the non-abs today, so obviously it still has great appeal to me, but turned around. The fact that it was pouring down rain certianly didn't help since I wouldn't have ridden it home today anyway. After I test drove it last night I went straight to my friends house and rode his Moto Guzzi v7 for a comparison. It just felt so much more substantial. Of course I cant stand the cheap plastic like the turn signals and FI covers on the Guzzi either. But it certainly had a lot more character. I will still end up going with the CBR, probably. I think I just need to get used to the type of bike it is. It has been many years since I have ridden a 250 ninja but I would say I liked everything about the cbr better. I did wind it out a little and it had a nice feeling up to 8K (for a second) but I guess I kept reading about the torque and thought there would be a little more there at 4k or so. I know, I know it is only a 250 and again it was pretty impressive in all respects. Just need to decide if I need to have a few more cc's with a little more torque or I just need to get used to something a little new to me. Take this with a grain of salt as my test ride was all of 5mi. at speeds below 50mph. Anyway, someone can nit-pik anything but this is still a great, great bike for the price.