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I've got my mind set on the next bike. The totally redesigned 2011-2012 GSXR 600! better ergos now with the shortened chassis and better redesigned engine. I initially had my mind set on moving up to the CBR600RR but the redesign of the Gixxa reeled me in. I hope to get the bike next year while gaining experience with my cbr250r. Honestly, if I knew the new GSXR 600 had the power reduction switch I would have bought it for my first bike.

Any thoughts or experience on the new gixxa? I saw a 2011 at a dealer for $9000, the new ones are going for $12k and it's the same bike.


 

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So just a guestion. Are you going for 600 because theres nothing between the 600 and 250?
I was looking a a older gxxser 600 down the street for $2,600 looked tempting.
 

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So just a guestion. Are you going for 600 because theres nothing between the 600 and 250?
I was looking a a older gxxser 600 down the street for $2,600 looked tempting.
Kind of. A CBR400r would have been nice but we'll never see it.

With the newer gsxr 600 bikes they have the power reduction switch, a, b and c (C being the biggest power reduction).

If I were you I would save up and get the newly redesigned 2011+ gixxer, wayyyy better. I figure next year I should be able to wheel a deal for $8000-$8500 OTD cash deal
for a 2011 model which will be 2 years old by then or wheel an even better deal on a slightly used one.

I've always been fond of Suzuki bikes, especially their 450 dirtbikes.
 

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You might want to take a look at the 2013 crop of bikes... Lots of rumors, some of them well founded, in regard to new mid-range bikes...

Had a CBR1000 pull up next to me today. The rider was *fascinated* with the cbr250r... He hadn't seen one before, and we talked for at least half an hour, basically about the weebee... Apparently, it offered just about everything he wasn't getting out of his liter bike... which, incidentally, he felt had absolutely no real use, except for the track, or to show off at bike meetups, which he had, also apparently, outgrown the need to do...

He'd had the 2010 cbr1000 for two years, and between the insurance, gas, and maintenance, was *still* looking for a good reason to keep it. I gave him the name of the guy I'd dealt with at my dealer (whom I'd buy from again in a heartbeat), and he was visibly excited about the prospect of trading in the liter bike for the new 250...

Just sayin'...
 

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i kind of see it pointless unless you are always on the highway, you can ride your 250 "fast", or you can get a fast bike and ride it slow all the time
 

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You might want to take a look at the 2013 crop of bikes... Lots of rumors, some of them well founded, in regard to new mid-range bikes...

Had a CBR1000 pull up next to me today. The rider was *fascinated* with the cbr250r... He hadn't seen one before, and we talked for at least half an hour, basically about the weebee... Apparently, it offered just about everything he wasn't getting out of his liter bike... which, incidentally, he felt had absolutely no real use, except for the track, or to show off at bike meetups, which he had, also apparently, outgrown the need to do...

He'd had the 2010 cbr1000 for two years, and between the insurance, gas, and maintenance, was *still* looking for a good reason to keep it. I gave him the name of the guy I'd dealt with at my dealer (whom I'd buy from again in a heartbeat), and he was visibly excited about the prospect of trading in the liter bike for the new 250...

Just sayin'...
yeah I had a dude cut my grass and he was fascinated with my 250 as well and he used to have a GSXR 750.

I couldn't believe he was fascinated with my bike either.

I would never get a litre bike unless I was pro racer. Those bikes on the street are for posers b/c it's too much bike for the street and could send you to the slammer and your bike impounded if you get amped up one day and want to hit 150mph on the highway.

The 600 is good for a few reasons, one it looks brawnier and has a bigger back tire, you can do power passes on the highway and street, the exhaust sounds wayyy better, you don't have to shift as much and could techincally cruise in 3rd gear locally, and you do get a little more respect on the street (Honestly, I could care less).

On the other hand, insurance is higher, the maintenance is much more (Not as bad if you do the work yourself), you only get about 40 mpg at best, if you drop the bike you will pay 3x more to fix it, and you will most likely never use the potential power of this bike.

Bottom line, if you can afford the bigger bike you will probably have more fun on the bigger bike mostly from the faster 0-60 range at 3.5 sec compare to 8 secs for our bike, BIF DIFFERENCE. Around town you will enjoy less shifting. On the highway you will experience less wind turbulence (Was informed by a former cbr250r who switched to a gixxer.)


twistdawrist did an excellent comparison between the two bikes, the pros and cons of each.:

 

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Boy am I glad you posted this! I went to some dealers today to research the ergos of my next bike. I was feeling depressed because there are no good sport bikes, with approximately 70 HP, between the cbr250r and a 600CC supersport.

The best thing I found was a new 2009 Suzuki SV650S which was great because it has nearly everything I wanted including; 70HP, Clip-ons, properly placed and shaped tank for hanging off, 2-4 inches of crotch space and a thriving aftermarket. The only drawback is it is slightly ugly and oldschool compared to the newer motorcycles. I plan on paying off the CBR in the next few months and shouldn't buy now so there is a chance it could be sold. I spent the whole day talking myself out of being impulsive.

The 2011 Yamaha FZ6R may be a nice bike, but it is obviously more for beginners and people wanting the look of a sport bike, but not the discomfort. It is not for aspiring track riders, and doesn't have any features conducive for hanging off unless your shins are three feet long. It is like our bike, but with a ridiculously upright position. There was very little crotch space.

The 2012 Kawasaki Ninja 650 is really nice, except there is some weird things going on with the peg mounts. They are really long and the left side is a chain guard and rubber mounted. Rearsets will get rid of the passenger pegs and require a chain guard or be really expensive with passenger pegs. The bars were really high, and felt awkwardly positioned and I could only see dropping them 1" without moving them back 1.5-2inches to drop them further. My elbows hurt immediately when I was testing the *ucked position. The windscreen seems like a piece of junk. I decided that it was nice enough that I wouldn't be too disappointed if the SV650 sold and I had to use it as my back up. Although, getting used to sitting upright and then getting a sport bike would be awful. I'm sure my back muscles would atrophy and that transition would be murder.

This is where this thread comes in to save the day! What I really want is the Triumph Daytona 675 and my second choice is the GSXR based on ergos alone. Now I know that the GSXR-600 is both my next bike and my third bike all because they offer that beautiful, thoughtful little power switch!
 

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Boy am I glad you posted this! I went to some dealers today to research the ergos of my next bike. I was feeling depressed because there are no good sport bikes, with approximately 70 HP, between the cbr250r and a 600CC supersport.

The best thing I found was a new 2009 Suzuki SV650S which was great because it has nearly everything I wanted including; 70HP, Clip-ons, properly placed and shaped tank for hanging off, 2-4 inches of crotch space and a thriving aftermarket. The only drawback is it is slightly ugly and oldschool compared to the newer motorcycles. I plan on paying off the CBR in the next few months and shouldn't buy now so there is a chance it could be sold. I spent the whole day talking myself out of being impulsive.

The 2011 Yamaha FZ6R may be a nice bike, but it is obviously more for beginners and people wanting the look of a sport bike, but not the discomfort. It is not for aspiring track riders, and doesn't have any features conducive for hanging off unless your shins are three feet long. It is like our bike, but with a ridiculously upright position. There was very little crotch space.

The 2012 Kawasaki Ninja 650 is really nice, except there is some weird things going on with the peg mounts. They are really long and the left side is a chain guard and rubber mounted. Rearsets will get rid of the passenger pegs and require a chain guard or be really expensive with passenger pegs. The bars were really high, and felt awkwardly positioned and I could only see dropping them 1" without moving them back 1.5-2inches to drop them further. My elbows hurt immediately when I was testing the *ucked position. The windscreen seems like a piece of junk. I decided that it was nice enough that I wouldn't be too disappointed if the SV650 sold and I had to use it as my back up. Although, getting used to sitting upright and then getting a sport bike would be awful. I'm sure my back muscles would atrophy and that transition would be murder.

This is where this thread comes in to save the day! What I really want is the Triumph Daytona 675 and my second choice is the GSXR based on ergos alone. Now I know that the GSXR-600 is both my next bike and my third bike all because they offer that beautiful, thoughtful little power switch!
have you got chance to sit on the 2011-12 GSXR 600? I have not...yet. I'm more concerned about the ergos of this bike fitting me good. Previous year GSXR put some strain on the wrists and hands after long rides, at least from what I heard. If the ergos are much improved and fit me well I will pull the trigger on this bike next year.

Btw, I hear the Triumph daytona 675 ergos is not too comfy, from what I heard on reviews online. Have you sat on this bike?
 

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Hey DudeMan you have to demo these bikes before you buy if the dealer lets you. I got to Rid the 12 GSXR600 and 12 R6 at demos.

R6-
Pros- Nice sounding VROMMMMM sounding exhaust. Ultra sharp handling for skilled riders. Exciting free revving engine that revs faster and smoother than the GSXR600.
Cons-Tall seat height and pretty much a torture rack for the street.

GSXR600
Pros-for a 600 really good torque down low. Much easier for most to ride than a R6.
Cons- to my ears I wasnt that thrilled with the exhaust sound. It just roars to me not VROMMMMM so I rather hear a R6. The footpegs buzzed pretty bad. It was probably just the one I rode. It was tiring to have my feet tingle at the mid range spot in a lot of gear so make sure you test ride before you buy it.

Good luck in your search and test ride is the only way to go.
 

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No good havin flash shoes if ya cant run.
 

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have you got chance to sit on the 2011-12 GSXR 600? I have not...yet. I'm more concerned about the ergos of this bike fitting me good. Previous year GSXR put some strain on the wrists and hands after long rides, at least from what I heard. If the ergos are much improved and fit me well I will pull the trigger on this bike next year.

Btw, I hear the Triumph daytona 675 ergos is not too comfy, from what I heard on reviews online. Have you sat on this bike?
I have sat on most of the supersport bikes. I am too hesitant to test ride because of their power, which is why I have been looking for an in-between bike.

I like different things about each motorcycle. My knees are my biggest problem because I am a tall rider and my knees are junk. The triumph is my favorite because there isn't the same level of tightness, discomfort in my knees and effort to hit the shifter as on other bikes. It is their flagship bike and their component choice is top quality. It requires a good forward lean, which is uncomfortable only if you use your arms to hold yourself up. Riser clip-ons can be purchased if there is a problem. I liked the 2011 GSXR-600 because it just felt better, in every way except wallet, than the CBR (too small, but slightly upright position is nice) and especially the R6 (Uncomfortable, hard to access shifter, just garbage.) I sat on the Kawasake ZX-6R today and the bars felt great, knees felt fine, but something was off about the positioning or shape of the seat. I have sat on each bike several times over the last ten months I have had the CBR250R to see if my impressions have changed. For the most part, there is no change and my preference based on ergos is Daytona, then GSXR, Ninja, CBR, gun to my head...after a misfire...R6. GSXR having two significantly different power settings has moved it up to the top of my list. Now I know why everyone and their mother has one in my area because I know for sure that $2,000 extra is a lot of scratch for a soldier to dig up.
 

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^^Thanks for the reviews on the bikes. How was the ergo on the gsxr 600? Decent for the city?
 

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No good havin flash shoes if ya cant run.
Is this a statement against the ride mode switch?:confused:

I like that I can get a bike that is a step towards super sport and a super sport. I don't like having to buy and then sell a bike that is just a step towards a super sport. Not to mention I have worked hard to develop my skills and when the twisties come around to equalize I can catch many riders...The OP is also planning to develop his skills. I would also venture to say there probably is very few of us on this forum or others that can "run" by my definition. "Run" meaning Rossi on a Yamaha, well fine, Rossi on a Ducati ain't too bad either I suppose :p.
 

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^^Thanks for the reviews on the bikes. How was the ergo on the gsxr 600? Decent for the city?
It was comfortable enough for a super sport, but they are all crap for the city. The CBR is smaller, more nimble (from reviews) and felt more upright. If I wanted a "city super sport" I think it would be the best choice, but the super sport design just isn't conducive for slow, tight turns and stop and go. In all honesty, I'm probably as happy as I could be on my CBR250R in the city. One of the 650's, with upright ergos, would be the cats pajamas if I wasn't working towards a super sport for my beloved twisty roads and track ideation.
 

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Ive been recommended by lots of people to get the 750 over the 600, apparently ill get bored of the 600 and weant a litre
 

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Am I missing something here? I don't know if my sarcasm meter is working or not?

No sarcasm on this one my friend, the extra power throughout the whole RPM range rather then reving the guts out of a 600.

This is coming from a track perspective
 

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I actually like revving a bike out. I had a almost Liter bike once a ZX9. It was boring for the street. 600 is plenty for anywhere unless you are on the autobahn and hate anyone passing you up.
 
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