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5:53 a skinny chic..........................
 

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nice rant:)

i'm also around a bunch of heavy folks
i think of it as population control in a sort of way.
also agree about the religious thing;)
although i'm a cheap bastard is why i dont eat out.
and im a great cook,probably eat salad 7 times a week
with meals(out of my garden).
 

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Your vlog made me a little angry. Walk a mile in a fat kids shoes. OK, all joking aside we know fat kids won't walk a mile :(

There seems to be a lot of misunderstanding and I suspect it's because you have never had trouble maintaining your weight. I had a friend that couldn't gain weight to save his life. At the time I wasn't jealous because his physique looked starved. My metabolism allowed me to put on muscle like crazy, which most skinny kids were envious of. Well the tables have turned. I'm jealous now because it takes constant effort just to maintain my weight. I would love to have some of the junk food the thin people buy or make and constantly offer at work, but I must offend them and refuse daily. There is no understanding because they don't have a problem with their weight...or they're already married ;) While I eat, which happens to be one of the only times I enjoy during the weekdays, I feel like I am being judged. It's like every bite is making me fatter.

My aerostitch is a little tight so last week, I ate about 80% vegetarian food, consciously chose smaller proportions, didn't grab a snack when I felt hungry or when my body got cold because my metabolism had slowed from not eating within a few hours. Well my suit is a tad looser, but I gained three pounds. Does this sound like something you've experienced? I went backpacking for three days with a carefully planned calorie intake of about 2500 calories a day. I didn't eat everything because I was too exhausted to cook. I weighed more when I came back home. I am used to this counter intuitive experience. It is like my body is working against my wishes. It is like a few billion years of evolution have programmed it to conserve energy. I expect that most skinny people have the opposite experience.
 

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Whats next religion? People need to get out & ride there bikes more often. No im no fat, but who wants to f-k a bag of bones.
 

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Your vlog made me a little angry. Walk a mile in a fat kids shoes. OK, all joking aside we know fat kids won't walk a mile :(

There seems to be a lot of misunderstanding and I suspect it's because you have never had trouble maintaining your weight.
I used to weigh about 213lbs. I lost it with discipline and plenty of exercise. didnt mean to offend anyone, just saying us Americans seem to idolize food too much. For example, all these kids that wear monster gear. Again, not to offend anyone... but that seems foolish to me to wear a logo from an energy drink brand. Now a days if anyone wore a shirt with joe camel on it they would look stupid. see my point.
 

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I used to weigh about 213lbs. I lost it with discipline and plenty of exercise. didnt mean to offend anyone, just saying us Americans seem to idolize food too much. For example, all these kids that wear monster gear. Again, not to offend anyone... but that seems foolish to me to wear a logo from an energy drink brand. Now a days if anyone wore a shirt with joe camel on it they would look stupid. see my point.
Well then, I misjudged you. Your vlog came across as though you had never been overweight. Good on you for dropping a bunch of weight and I guess you do understand. I get mad sometimes because it really is as "simple" as not eating so much, but eating is such an important activity and it isn't easy choosing to be hungry and grumpy all the time. I just haven't found the right combination of reward and sacrifice yet.
 

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I used to be 165 lbs. fit, lean, and very active..when i hit my mid thirties, i started gaining weight for no apparent reason..got up to 230!!!!!humty f-n dumpty..i went to the dr. found out i have type 2 diabetes..ive since lost 30 lbs..i was always like you mongoose, slim and lean..my body changed but now ive decided to like you said discipline myself.. it is all about the way we want to live our lives, and here in the u.s. there is wayyy too much over consumption of many things, food being only one..
 

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I used to weight 215 & got into bicycling. lost 40 pounds. Got back in to motorcycles after hurting ankle & my back. Back up to 180. Of course i have to eat better to keep it at 180. Addictive personaltiy & food dont go together.
 

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Aww... the joys of cheap corn. Not that it is all the blame.
T NATION | Corn-Fed Blubber

Barney's got a problem. He looks like a Wookie from Star Wars, but that's not the problem I'm talking about. He's fat. Blubbery even. When he walks around on his four legs, it sounds like two beefy men in their slippers shuffling towards the refrigerator in the hopes of finding some cold pizza.
He takes a few steps and then leans against the wall, a piece of furniture, or his master's legs to take a breather because moving all the bulk is hard on the ol' ticker.
As you might have guessed, Barney's a dog, a Bouvier, to be specific. Like all Bouviers, he's shaggy and large, but this particular Bouvier happens to be obese.
He belongs to a friend of mine and given that I like sticking my nose into other people's business—especially when it comes to dietary matters—I asked him, without too much disdain my voice, "What the **** have you been feeding this dog?"
"No, no, it's good stuff!" he replied, more than a little defensively. "His dog food is made by his veterinarian and he says it's the best in the world."
I clean and jerked the giant bag of dogfood onto the counter and started to read the ingredients but I didn't need to go any further than the first item on the list: corn meal. This yahoo of a vet has been taking what's essentially cattle feed and repackaging it as dog food. Ranchers use similar stuff to fatten up steer before they're led to slaughter. Protein didn't show it's happy face on the list until the third ingredient.
Part of Barney's problem is that he just takes in too many calories, much the same as many of his fat human friends all around America. Since 1977, Americans are ingesting roughly 200 extra calories a day and it's clearly evident in the pasty white paunches, pockmarked jiggling thighs, and elephantine butts we see standing in line in front of us at the supermarket every day.
Just this past week, a study published in the Archives of Internal Medicine estimated that the proportion of "normal weight" people will drop from 42 percent today to just 5 percent in 2040. Furthermore, many researchers predict that today's children will be the first generation whose life expectancy is shorter than that of their parents.
One of the underlying causes of all this artery-clogging blubber came about through a fascinating blend of politics, history, economics, and plain old greed, as laid out by Michael Pollan in last week's New York Times Magazine(The (Agri)Cultural Contradictions of Obesity). And it all relates back to what was tops on the list of ingredients in Barney's dogfood. Yep, time to point the finger at the quintessential American food, corn.
Pollan writes that America's pretty much always produced a lot of corn. Back in the 1800's, the fertile land west of the Appalachians produced uncommonly high yields of the grain, which manifested itself in cheap corn prices and then cheap corn whiskey.
The evil brew became super cheap and super abundant and the average American began putting away half a pint of the stuff every day. American workers drank it for breakfast, lunch, and dinner, and employers were expected to supply the stuff for their workers during the workday. In fact, according to Pollan, the modern coffee break began as a late-morning whiskey break that was called "the elevenses."
Young America was soon wracked by alcoholism, violence, and all the other societal problems you'd associate with a nation of boozers.
We're currently experiencing another long-term boom in corn production and as a result, cheap corn prices. Consider that in 1930, America was producing 1,757,297,000 bushels a year, but in the year 2000 we produced 9,968,358,000 bushels. While most of it's not being distilled as it was back in the 19th century, it is being turned into products that, in the long run, are just as devastating as grain alcohol.
Pollan points out that a lot of this cheap corn, transformed into corn syrup, is what allowed Coca-Cola to take a seemingly lilliputian (by today's standards) 8-ounce Coke and transform it into a gargantuan 20-ounce serving. Similarly, this abundance of cheap corn syrup fuels society's ceaseless thirst for insulin-resistance and diabetes-producing soft drinks.
Likewise, cheap corn—fed to cattle—translates into cheap beef, thereby allowing McDonald's and other junk food terrorists to crank out quarter pound gut bombs and triple-decker artery cloggers which sometimes sell for less than a dollar. And consider the chicken McNugget, which is first made from corn-fed chicken, then glued together with corn-concocted glue, and finally coated with corn-derived…stuff.
And then there's all the new snack foods that show up on grocery shelves almost weekly. All a result of cheap corn and manufacturers' zeal in putting it to use: Fritos, Doritos, Tostitos, this kind of puff, that kind of puff. If you stacked up all the different corn-based snacks, one on top of another, you could…you could…well, you could have a helluva' party for a whole bunch of fat people!
Most of the time, glutting the market with a product results in lowered prices, but what's supposed to then happen is that farmer's stop producing the stuff! Once a crop gets too cheap, it costs the farmer more to produce it than he gets back from the market.
To figure out why corn hasn't followed the classic supply and demand model, you have to go back to the seventies (which is exactly when we started elevating our average daily caloric intake).
In 1972, President Nixon signed a grain deal with the Soviet Union. That, and a streak of bad weather in the Midwest, caused a grain shortage which caused commodity prices to soar. Consumers got royally pissed, taking to the streets to protest. There was even a nationwide meat boycott to protest the high price of our precious hamburger! Nixon's solution was to instruct Earl Butz, the Secretary of Agriculture, to fix the problem any way he could.
Butz' solution was, in short, farm subsidies. Farmers got paid by the government to produce as much grain as they could and dump it on the market regardless of price. Grain, mostly corn, flooded the market. Soon, American farmers were producing 500 additional calories per American per day, "each of us," Pollan writes, "heroically, managing to pack away about 200 of those extra calories a day. Presumably, the other 300—most of them in the form of surplus corn—get dumped on overseas markets or turned into ethanol."
Add to that the fact that these extra calories are bad calories—insulin raising, fat storing, diabetes causing calories—and you've got yourself one significant health epidemic.
While Pollan made a great case in holding corn responsible for the fattening of America, he neglected to talk about corn's other dietary and health-related crimes. To examine these, we first have to look at one of the nation's top corn consumers, the cow.
Prior to World War II, just about all of American beef was grass-fed. In other words, cattle just grazed for the duration of their lives. Later, ranchers discovered that feeding cows grain, specifically corn, caused them to fatten up considerably faster. Not only that, but corn-fed cattle produce a meat that's marbled with fat and has a smooth, consistent flavor.
And we can't forget about the economics of corn feeding either. Remember, corn's dirt-cheap. Ranchers like dirt-cheap.
Unfortunately, there are problems associated with corn fed cattle. For one thing, cows are ruminants. That means they chew on grass, swallow it, and it more or less ferments in one section of their stomach before it gets absorbed. This system doesn't work so well with corn. The indigenous bovine bacteria don't work as efficiently with corn and it causes the cattle considerable health problems. To keep them from getting too sick—which would prevent them from gaining weight—they're fed antibiotics and hormones.
You'd find conflicting views on whether any of these drugs get passed on to the meat you eat, but at the very least, this stuff finds its ways into runoff and works its way into waterways and fields.
Nowadays, most cattle spend an average of 60 to 120 days in feedlots where they're fattened up before being slaughtered. Obviously, most of us know that heavily marbled beef isn't exactly part of a healthy diet but there are other things going on that you need to know about. Feeding cattle corn instead of grass drastically upsets the balance of essential fatty acids found in their meat.
The modern American diet is criminally short on Omega 3 fatty acids and these fatty acids, when consumed in optimal amounts, can potentially prevent coronary artery disease, hypertension, arthritis, cancer, diabetes, and various inflammatory and autoimmune disorders. Conversely, the American diet is high in Omega 6 fatty acids. While Omega 6 fatty acids are important to health, too, bad things happen when the ratio of these fatty acids get altered; namely, the aforementioned maladies.
Many scientists guess that man evolved eating an Omega 6 to Omega 3 fatty acid ratio of 1 to 1 from both meat and plant sources. An acceptable modern day ratio would be approximately 3 to 1. Trouble is, corn-fed cattle, in various studies, have exhibited ratios of 21 to 1, 11 to 1, and 20 to 1. Not good. Grass-fed cattle, on the other hand, exhibit ratios of 3 or 4 to 1.
Similarly, the meat from grass-fed cattle contains significantly higher amounts of CLA, which supposedly lowers the risk of cancer.
Maybe you don't eat a lot of beef, but there are plenty of Americans who do and they're likely the ones that don't exercise or watch their diet at all. In other words, they're the ones most likely to be harmed by this bad beef.
Luckily, some ranchers have gone back to "the old ways" and are raising their cattle strictly on grass. This type of beef, while not yet common, is starting to show up in butcher shop display cases. While the meat tastes a bit different than what Americans are used to, it's leaner, contains correct fatty acid ratios, higher amounts of Vitamin E, and little to no undesirable hormones or antibiotics.
It's almost unthinkable that a single type of grain could cause the obesity epidemic and possibly be at the root of so many health problems, but when you look at the human and canine Barneys all around us, along with the poor health of the country in general, it's hard to come up with a suspect that might be more culpable
 

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I like your blogs, Mongoose, while I agree and disagree with different parts which is to be expected. I think it boils down to invention. Necessity used to be the "mother of invention".....now its convenience. F'ing robo vacuums, automatic sauce pan stirrers, motion sensor doors, etc. Its only going to get worse, in that aspect and in the end it will be parents who have to help their kids develop healthy habits to keep fit. With that being said, I really dont have these issues since I am underweight and have the problem of trying to put on some pounds (but that just makes my weeBR go faster lol). Just my 2 pennies, keep up the vlogs and ride safe.
 

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My aerostitch is a little tight so last week, I ate about 80% vegetarian food, consciously chose smaller proportions...
Vegetarian diets don't help you lose weight - in fact, quite the reverse. Eat plenty of lean protein, some vegetables, and avoid grains.
 

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Protein repairs and builds new cells. It'a a "building block". Educated food choices, portion control, eating smaller meals more times throughout the day, and EXCERSIZE are a few keys to losing weight. Muscle mass helps burns fat, lowers cholesterol, lowers blood pressure, reduces stress, gives a leaner profile, improves energy and for the "mature" group of riders.....helps with joint pain and stiffness. For the female group: losing excess fat will help regulate estrogen storage so the unpleasant side affects of estrogen will lower. Estrogen is stored in fat cells thus, more fat=more estogen=increased unpleasant affects:mad::p NOTE: estogen also stores in fat cells in guys which of course will have negative side affects.....decreased sex drive:( Building up muscle also helps bone density.

On the flip side, I must rally to rage agaisn't the media that glorifies anorexic girls who have'nt reached puberty yet, as the coveted body type to attain to. Only then will we be attractive to society and men. What ever happened to an hour glass figure? A little meat on the bones is attractive. IMO

For myself I like men who DO have meat on their bones and aren't so thin they're invisible. (Im not endorsing morbid obesity mind you, and those extreme body building dudes are gross IMO) Why can't that be the same for women? The boyish no hip figure with triple D implants is worshipped. Do men get p**** implants by yeilding to warped societal pressures? Humans are a diverse group of sizes, shapes and culture. Let's celebrate these difference by accepting that some will be bigger framed while others are like the Thai....so teeny that my 5' frame made me feel like "Amazon woman" lol.

Perhaps striving for a balanced life filled with healthy choices is the way to go. I have to hit the gym again. Winter can be a downer which tends to distrupt my schedule. I'm not a lover of the cold brrrrr So, "Body Pump" class here I come!!!!!
 

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They now say diet soda bad for you. Has to be all the chemicals they now put in food. Because it cant the water they put in it unless they treat it with something too.
 

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I like your blogs, Mongoose, while I agree and disagree with different parts which is to be expected. I think it boils down to invention. Necessity used to be the "mother of invention".....now its convenience. F'ing robo vacuums, automatic sauce pan stirrers, motion sensor doors, etc. Its only going to get worse, in that aspect and in the end it will be parents who have to help their kids develop healthy habits to keep fit. With that being said, I really dont have these issues since I am underweight and have the problem of trying to put on some pounds (but that just makes my weeBR go faster lol). Just my 2 pennies, keep up the vlogs and ride safe.
ever seen that movie "wall-e" where all the fat people never leave their chairs and eat everything out of a drink cup... it may not be too far from the truth in the next 50 years.:D
 

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Vegetarian diets don't help you lose weight - in fact, quite the reverse. Eat plenty of lean protein, some vegetables, and avoid grains.
For the record I am vegetarian... like full blown will not flesh from anything that was alive (besides plants). No eggs, no fish, no chicken, no beef. Still consume animal products (ie. milk, cheese, ice cream). Since going vegetarian (november 2011) I went from 157 to my current 140. My blood tests all come back immaculate. I believe the phrase my doc said was "your blood is that of a freak"...lol... she cracks me up. Never felt better.
 
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