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I'd gotten a good set of First Gear road leathers (not race) sized to fit over regular clothing. Served really well for 15+ years and counting but not so convenient for those times when the ride is not the main reason for going somewhere.

IMHO, the advent of 'armored' textiles that were designed to go easily over clothing has made it much more convenient to wear something to help out in case of a slide.

That said, I've gotten a set of low priced Cycle Gear Bilt 'race' jacket and pants leathers (they are not really good enough to have the word 'race' associated with them) and commute in those. I sized them to fit over clothing. Getting out of them after arriving at work only takes about a minute.. They are perforated and are probably good for up to 90 degrees F before I'd want to go textile.
 

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Isn't NGAOTT (No gear any of the time) a religiously held mantra as well..
lmfao, sure sounds like it to me
Oh I see, you want a response.

Having ranted on about me being a loony lefty (therefore presumably unworthy of an opinion or voice) I would have thought you would have taken RVOKINO's advice and put me on your ignore list.

Having been raised a hill country farm hick, and spent over 25 years of my working life as a farm labourer, my neck is redder than many. A career change a dozen years ago is the result of being aware and adapting to circumstances, rather than being a bland reactionary numbskull.

At no stage have I advocated No Gear Any Of The Time, though a butt naked blast along some beach might be a fun thing to do.

Wearing kevlar gear and riding with a bulletproof attitude is a recipe for disaster.

when that dogs jumps out from behind a bush from 5 feet away or or there is 3 cubic yards of gravel from someones driveway in your lane in a sharp corner and theres oncoming traffic...getting the picture?...

Yup, I get the picture. All that and more around these parts, and other parts I have lived. Nothing is unexpected.

Expect nothing and you will not be surprised..... There's a nice mantra for ya'll.
 

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I was afraid it would go this way. Since I started it I'll summarize and the forum folks can lock it if you want.

1. Wear gear, but don't expect it to make up for shortfalls in awareness.
2. Wear appropriate gear. If going for the twisties or high speeds, leather. If commuting, gear up if you want, but be prepared to accept the consequences if you don't. A short 30mph jaunt to the local restaurant maybe doesn't require much more than jeans.

I mostly started this thread to level set and find logic in it all. I haven't ridden in 20 years, and when I did I had what would have been a fatal accident without a helmet. I was feeling a bit like a cooked duck with everything on all the time. The other bikers I saw were riding in jeans and the occasional pair of shorts making me question my potentially overbearing choices.

I DID benefit from this thread, no matter how much it weaved in and out of reality. For that I thank you all.

'njoy,
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