[Michael]

I'm too busy concentrating on the SUV driver using a mobile phone, and the sports car not indicating but looks like it might turn right, and potholes, and bits of loose gravel and, and lumps of concrete left by over filled concrete trucks, and patches of oil, and that buffalo that is thinking of crossing the road, and that pack of dogs that is giving chase, and.... and.... to consider circles and coloured arrows, and paragraphs of explanation and the gospel and destabalising force and limits of traction and vectors and angles of the dangle and condom and bottom line.

Stick with administrating, moderating and writing software, Luke; as an instructor you don’t make the cut. In my opinion.

Like too many teachers I have come across, you seem to know a bit, but it gets lost in the communication.

I think what you are trying to say is this:

1 - brake before a corner
2 - back off the brakes through the corner
3 - use a bit of throttle to balance the bike

If you brake too hard while leaning into a corner, you’ll land up on your arse.

 

[Michael]

Kind of standard rules for cars too. I can't even count the number of times drivers hit their brakes mid curve.
Ive seen quite a few spin outs in the winter when cars in front of me use their brakes while they're inside a bend.

True.

However in an ABS equipped car the driver would have a reasonable chance of maintaining control (would be less likely to spin out), especially if the car also has traction control. Technology can make up for driver error or lack of skill on four wheels.

On a motorcycle, ABS or not, if you brake too hard mid curve you'll be off your bike. Technology is no substitute for technique on two wheels.

If you don't believe me, go out and try it.

Sorry, no vectors and circles and coloured lines and arrows along with a few choice quotes from some illustrious academic or another. I learned my motorcycling at the School of Hard Knocks, and was tutored by Common Sense.

 

[Michael]

I'm putting frame sliders on my elbows: it's cheaper.

I put a driving licence in my pocket. It stops the police from damaging my wallet.

 

[Michael]

Hope that was sarcasm, as mine

"Sarcasm" might be too strong a word. "Satire" might be more like it.

No offence intended to Luke earlier in this thread, though my first post in it was a bit strong. It is just that, as a teacher myself, I know that some try to teach by baffling their students with their own knowledge.

A teacher needs to know plenty, but effective instructing is often better achieved by putting things in relatively simple terms (aka KISS; Keep It Simple Stupid), while having the science available to answer questions that might come up.

The reason I have bumped this thread is because I think FastCBR should read Luke's original post...... and maybe some of the simplified versions further down the thread.

 

[Michael]

Micheal your replying to a comment that was made 2 years ago...
If the other guy does not respond right away just wait 2 more years

OP (and Moderator) Luke is still around, albeit pretty much in the background these days. TheMente hasn't posted since September last year, but I am not after a response from him.

The reason I dug up this thread from the past is that it is relevant to a topic that is being discussed now, especially the opening post.